http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't
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[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
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"It's faster than unassisted play" is not a sufficient explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
I’ll give one.
The tass makes use of damage boosts to move insanely fast to the goal. Not only that but it uses it in conjunction with out of bounds clipping, which allows to skip almost every stage. To me that’s pretty fast.. Irrelevant.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't
12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!"
Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet
MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish
[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
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EZGames69 wrote:
I’ll give one.
(...) Not only that but it uses it in conjunction with out of bounds clipping, which allows to skip almost every stage. To me that’s pretty fast.
Please read the award description.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't
12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!"
Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet
MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish
[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol
Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
"It's faster than unassisted play" is not a sufficient explanation.
There you go:
I still remember the first time I've watched a TAS that uses the Wall Surfing technique. At that time I was still willing to help nahoc with the making of his first TAS. As one of the first things to do, I suggested him to look for existing TASes on YouTube... In a matter of seconds, I got him giving an "oh my god" follow by the video url of Matt Schepcar's unfinished TAS. I was completely clueless of what he was about, until I opened the video and I instantly understood, as my reaction was the same. It was so impressive that at first I thought that some kind of cheats were used, also because there was no mention about TASing in that video. With some Googling, we both found Matt Schepcar's blog, where there was a post about how to write a bot... for TASing purposes. Still unbelieving, I've taken the laziest route possible: I've tried replicating the TAS of that first level by visually analyzing the video frame-by-frame. And I succeeded. But there was no point in copying without understanding what was going on... so I've tried to replicate the Wall Surfing trick from scratch. And I failed. All I could do was to note that the trick couldn't be executed without a bot. Seeing there was some serious work to do in order to achieve actual results, I gave up with this game and left the job to nahoc and E-Sh4rk. It has not been hard for them to figure how to make the appropriate bot, as they're both programmers. The only job left was to write a Lua script and explain them the Movie Rules thoroughly. On their own, nahoc and E-Sh4rk, did great with the rest. Not only they mastered botting of this game, but they even managed to beat Matt Schepcar's times! But that's not all. They also introduced the Out of Bounds techs, that allow to take advantage of something that we could describe as parallel universes...
The final product turned out even better than what I imagined. The character moves so fast that you can barely follow what's going on... actually, the first time anyone witnesses it, has a hard time just at realizing that the level has been already beaten. Everything happens so fast that the voice saying "start!" and "goal!" fills more time than actual gameplay itself. It's also nice to hear the continuous noises of the walls getting hit, as anomalous and erratic sounds are often a characteristic of advanced TASing. And it gets better. Later levels will end before the goal zone could even get in sight, thanks to sophisticated OoB trickery. It's not just faster than RTA, it's MUCH faster. To the point that even people used to watch TASes could not expect it. Other TASes that achieve similar results exist, but I didn't seem them appearing during this year. For these reasons, I deem [3933] GBA Kuru Kuru Kururin by mohoc & E-Sh4rk in 06:11.59 to be a movie applicable for this nomination.
"It's faster than unassisted play" is not a sufficient explanation.
There you go:
I still remember the first time I've watched a TAS that uses the Wall Surfing technique. At that time I was still willing to help nahoc with the making of his first TAS. As one of the first things to do, I suggested him to look for existing TASes on YouTube... In a matter of seconds, I got him giving an "oh my god" follow by the video url of Matt Schepcar's unfinished TAS. I was completely clueless of what he was about, until I opened the video and I instantly understood, as my reaction was the same. It was so impressive that at first I thought that some kind of cheats were used, also because there was no mention about TASing in that video. With some Googling, we both found Matt Schepcar's blog, where there was a post about how to write a bot... for TASing purposes. Still unbelieving, I've taken the laziest route possible: I've tried replicating the TAS of that first level by visually analyzing the video frame-by-frame. And I succeeded. But there was no point in copying without understanding what was going on... so I've tried to replicate the Wall Surfing trick from scratch. And I failed. All I could do was to note that the trick couldn't be executed without a bot. Seeing there was some serious work to do in order to achieve actual results, I gave up with this game and left the job to nahoc and E-Sh4rk. It has not been hard for them to figure how to make the appropriate bot, as they're both programmers. The only job left was to write a Lua script and explain them the Movie Rules thoroughly.
On their own, nahoc and E-Sh4rk, did great with the rest. Not only they mastered botting of this game, but they even managed to beat Matt Schepcar's times! But that's not all. They also introduced the Out of Bounds techs, that allow to take advantage of something that we could describe as parallel universes...
This bit is irrelevant to the goal of the award.
The character moves so fast that you can barely follow what's going on...
This bit is relevant to the goal of the award.
actually, the first time anyone witnesses it, has a hard time just at realizing that the level has been already beaten. Everything happens so fast that the voice saying "start!" and "goal!" fills more time than actual gameplay itself. It's also nice to hear the continuous noises of the walls getting hit, as anomalous and erratic sounds are often a characteristic of advanced TASing. And it gets better. Later levels will end before the goal zone could even get in sight, thanks to sophisticated OoB trickery. It's not just faster than RTA, it's MUCH faster. To the point that even people used to watch TASes could not expect it. Other TASes that achieve similar results exist, but I didn't seem them appearing during this year. For these reasons, I deem [3933] GBA Kuru Kuru Kururin by mohoc & E-Sh4rk in 06:11.59 to be a movie applicable for this nomination.
This is irrelevant to the goal of the award.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[3998] Linux Mari0 "warps" by Masterjun, lexikiq & dwangoAC in 01:06.93 because Mario flings out of the portals so fast, he goes through the stages at a breakneck pace (1-1, 1-2 and 8-4 are completed a lot faster than in the published TASes of the original NES version due to the speed Mario comes out of the portals). It also requires slowed down encodes (so one can follow the pace) due to that.
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[3998] Linux Mari0 "warps" by Masterjun, lexikiq & dwangoAC in 01:06.93 - featuring plenty of crazy portal abuse to send Mario flying at extreme speeds in any direction, or to warp all over the place, in order to breeze through the levels. In terms of sheer pace it's almost definitely one of the highest ones for this year.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't
12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!"
Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet
MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish
[Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person
MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol
Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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I'm surprised this movie wasn't nominated so far: I nominate [4086] Genesis Sonic 3 & Knuckles "ring attack, newgame+" by Evil_3D, TheYogWog & kaan55 in 1:26:11.12.
Explanation: On one side the TAS covers a lot of content, has a whole lot of fast-paced movement to show, and on the other side, whatever portion of it I check out, the TAS doesn't disappoint with fast movement (high ratio of fast paced sections to total TAS time), and not only sideways but it covers about all directions and that with quick direction switches. Also, the character doesn't only reach high speeds but comes with high acceleration to reach them quickly, so that at various points one has to pay attention to keep track of what is happening. ''Blink and you miss it''. There's also a good visual & environmental variation over the course of the TAS so that the fast motion doesn't get repetitive or easy to expect/predict. There is wall-/floor-clipping and zigzagging and often one sees the environment on the screen to just fly by. I think off-screen character movement is not featured in it, but character movement happens visibly in front of the surroundings aswell as hidden behind the scenery at other times, keeping the viewer busy trying to make out where the character will appear again.
I'm also nominating and by that seconding EZGames69 on [3948] GBA Sonic Advance "Knuckles, No Ultraspindash" by GoddessMaria in 13:14.31 for sharing many of the properties with which I described the other Sonic movie above, and this movie here also has the character moving offscreen by going faster than the screen can keep up with the character at least at 1 point.
Furthermore, I'm nominating [4089] Linux Celeste "100%" by euni, fishmcmuffins, keylie, dahlukeh & Lanvilla in 1:27:36.12. While overall, this to me appears to be more calm compared to the two movies that I mentioned above, for a fair perspective however, I think one should also consider that this is partially due to the fact that the screen is further zoomed out and seems to be better at moving alongside with the character, while the character movement itself chains many jumps, restlessly bends them around obstacles or zips through them and frequently flies from one side to the other.
collect, analyse, categorise.
"Mathematics - When tool-assisted skills are just not enough" ;)
Don't want to be taking up so much space adding to posts, but might be worth mentioning and letting others know for what games 1) already some TAS work has been done (ordered in decreasing amount, relative to a game completion) by me and 2) I am (in decreasing order) planning/considering to TAS them. Those would majorly be SNES games (if not, it will be indicated in the list) I'm focusing on.
1) Spanky's Quest; On the Ball/Cameltry; Musya; Super R-Type; Plok; Sutte Hakkun; The Wizard of Oz; Battletoads Doubledragon; Super Ghouls'n Ghosts; Firepower 2000; Brain Lord; Warios Woods; Super Turrican; The Humans.
2) Secret Command (SEGA); Star Force (NES); Hyperzone; Aladdin; R-Type 3; Power Blade 2 (NES); Super Turrican 2; First Samurai.
(last updated: 18.03.2018)
So I noticed that my Sonic tas is currently tied with Celeste for 1st. I'd like it to stay that way if possible. Without getting into too much detail I think that Celeste tas is very entertaining and very well done. Plus it's a great contender for this particular award. I'd be very happy to share this award with those authors.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles "ring attack is the winner of Speedy TAS of 2019 because Sonic is the fastest fictional character in video game and not superhero ever so... Gotta Go Fast!!!
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kaan55 wrote:
So I noticed that my Sonic tas is currently tied with Celeste for 1st. I'd like it to stay that way if possible. Without getting into too much detail I think that Celeste tas is very entertaining and very well done. Plus it's a great contender for this particular award. I'd be very happy to share this award with those authors.
I know it didn't happen, but this comment made me smile. Great TASes all around in this thread!
