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Thanks for encoding this! I didn't really try to make an encode myself this time since the last one wasn't very good.

In this game (as well as the prequel) Mario has a fixed altitude when he jumps. More importantly, it doesn't matter how long I press the jump key, it could be 1 frame or a whole 60 frames, my altitude will always be the same every time. Say for instance I jump from one platform to the other and they're close to each other. I have to wait to land onto the next platform despite the rather short distance. After this platform, there's a higher floor I have to jump on again and the same rules apply. I hug the walls from time to time because I have no other choice but to wait to land on the ground. I hope this answers your question.

In this game (as well as the prequel) Mario has a fixed altitude when he jumps. More importantly, it doesn't matter how long I press the jump key, it could be 1 frame or a whole 60 frames, my altitude will always be the same every time. Say for instance I jump from one platform to the other and they're close to each other. I have to wait to land onto the next platform despite the rather short distance. After this platform, there's a higher floor I have to jump on again and the same rules apply. I hug the walls from time to time because I have no other choice but to wait to land on the ground. I hope this answers your question.

Unfortunately it doesn't. Even with fixed altitude jumps, it appears you can control horizontal movement during the duration of a jump. What I don't know and can't easily see from the encodes is how horizontal acceleration works in the game. If there is acceleration and not instantaneous increase to max horizontal speed, then hugging the wall may delay such acceleration. For a theoretical example: If Mario instantly increases to max horizontal speed once he is allowed to move horizontally after clearing a ledge vertically, then how far he moves in X frames will always be equal so long as his horizontal position is right at the corner of the wall when he clears the ledge vertically. With this style of movement, hugging the wall is not a problem. However, if acceleration is a component of movement and Mario is only allowed to begin accelerating horizontally after clearing the ledge vertically, then hugging the wall means that the horizontal acceleration can't start until after he clears the ledge. Thus, jumping right against the wall will have a slower initial horizontal speed upon clearing the ledge vertically which will take time to build to max speed. This will limit how far he can travel horizontally in a given number of frames. By jumping from farther away from the wall, the acceleration can be exploited to have Mario's horizontal speed be already maxed out at the moment he clears the ledge vertically; this should yield a farther horizontal travel in the same number of frames than a jump that hugged the wall could, due to Mario's horizontal speed already being maxed out when he clears the ledge vertically.

From what I was able to understand, Mario stops on a dime. I never really gave acceleration much of a consideration. When you stop holding left or right, Mario stops moving horizontally seemingly instantaneously. Every time I hugged a wall, Mario stopped moving seemingly instantly. When I stopped hugging the wall, Mario continued moving forward at seemingly the same speed he normally goes forward every time. To me, personally, I didn't notice a difference in movement speed. I don't even think this game has an in depth movement system like in the official games (although I could be very wrong about that).

From what I was able to understand, Mario stops on a dime. I never really gave acceleration much of a consideration. When you stop holding left or right, Mario stops moving horizontally seemingly instantaneously. Every time I hugged a wall, Mario stopped moving seemingly instantly. When I stopped hugging the wall, Mario continued moving forward at seemingly the same speed he normally goes forward every time. To me, personally, I didn't notice a difference in movement speed. I don't even think this game has an in depth movement system like in the official games (although I could be very wrong about that).

This makes it sound like acceleration is not a factor for this game, so wall hugging shouldn be fine.

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