This topic is for the purpose of discussing #6513: Randil, MESHUGGAH & aiqiyou's NES Rush'n Attack "2 players" in 09:35.30

I tested the idea of not using the ladder in a post four years ago, but I didn't end up saving the 16 frames like I expected. It looks like the difference between movies is that I let Blue catch up enough to die on the mine, whereas in this submission Blue catches up a little but Red still dies on the mine. When Blue died on the mine for me, the screen stopped scrolling, which cost 27 frames. But it looks like the screen never stops scrolling in this submission. I gave up on the idea too quickly. Good work; this game should be pretty close to fully optimized with this submission.

Cool, nice work finding an additional time save.

It looks like the difference between movies is that I let Blue catch up enough to die on the mine

Let Blue lie down to increase the lateral decision range seems to be the best solution. But when Blue resurrects, it causes the screen to stop scrolling. The cause is the vertical death of blue. Before Blue's body disappeared, Blue's transverse coordinates have reached their minimum. This makes Red ineffective lateral movement. So I finally chose to walk over and step on the mines.

Replace the file with a 4 frames quickly. http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/58093784426114001 In Submission #2712, Randil said: Level 4 - 0 frames saved (17 in total) The first section of the level can be quite laggy if you don't take care of the enemies as soon as possible. This is why I move back with Blue, in order to kill off enemies as soon as they appear. Because of this, it's not possible for me to climb up and take the rocket launcher around frame 17935. 3 rockets in total on this level, but Arc also pulls of an RPP here, so 2 frames saved using the RPP trick. I lose 2 frames by the between-levels frame rule, negating the 2 frames saved by the RPP. I tried to change Level 4 and got this route - get two rocket launchers without any extra lag. This makes level 4 three frames faster. Influenced by frame rules, the final increase is 4 frames.

Good job! Will look on it tonight and check it with my Lua script.

I changed a new file with a 4 frames quick. You could check the new one.

Dacicus: Processing...

I see that you’re trying to finish off the Rush’ns again?

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If the game has pacifism, will it be accepted

If the game has pacifism, will it be accepted

Please, post your judgement questions in this thread: http://tasvideos.org/forum/t/19741