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Can you describe what's weird about it? I don't have ZNES.
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Well, ok then... It's just going through the 2 levels forwards, backwards, then forwards again.
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I uploaded the original capture onto archive.org Here we go Sorry the file's so gigantic, I'm not experienced in compression. But it's better quality than google video, for those interested.
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Here's a very interesting idea for a SMW TAS: Fastest time to get 99 lives. I wanted to see this done for at least 1 Mario game, but when I thought about it SMW was the only viable choice. SMB and the lost levels would involve simply bouncing off a Koopa Shell 99 times. And anyway, the game doesn't display the number of lives the player has. In SMB2, 1ups are near non-existant. In SMB3, the current TAS is more or less the fastest way to get 99 lives. However, SMW is a good possibility. Basically, I think the route would be basically the current TAS until 1-castle. At that point, Mario would pick up a big combo by staying on the wires and stomping Koopas. Then the TAS would go to 2-1, pick up the cape, and fly around killing enemies. Then dive to the end of the level and hit the tape, unlocking a bonus game, where he can get all of the same item. Movie end.
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Fastest way would probably be to duplicate a 1up-block in Yoshi's Island 2 90ish times. Or wherever the first 1up block can be found. Edit: Like this.
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Chamale wrote:
In SMB2, 1ups are near non-existant.
Collect 19 coins. Get 5-ups in the bonus game. You're finished after 1-2. It wouldn't be much of a TAS.
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Or, just get to Donut Secret 1 as fast as possible, grab a shell from the P-balloon bonus room, dump it in one of the depressed areas right below the pipe you exit out of, and stomp it repeatedly. Fastest 1-up method in normal play, as far as I've seen...in the GBA version, which has a 999-life max, you can get over 200 lives before the time runs out, if I remember right. :p
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Collect 19 coins. Get 5-ups in the bonus game. You're finished after 1-2. It wouldn't be much of a TAS.
...except that SMB2, at least the NES version, actually has a max of P4 (254) lives. You're about 30 coins short. :p (Yeah, I know the thread says 99, but it wouldn't look right if you didn't truly max it out. Heh. :p)
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Chamale wrote:
In SMB3, the current TAS is more or less the fastest way to get 99 lives.
You've never bounced on the Goombas that come out of the pipes in the beginning of 1-2 to get 99 lives? It's ridiculously easy.
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A lot of people have been asking about the Small Only progress so here it is: 1. YI1 2. YI2 3. YI3 4. YI4 5. C#1 6. DP1 key exit 7. DS1 Gate 8. DGH 9. DP3 10. DP4 11. C#2 12. VD1 Key 13. VS1 Key 14. SW2 Key 15. SW3 Key 16. SW4 Key 17. SW5 Gate 18. SW5 Key 19. Gnarly 20. Tubular 21. Way Cool 22. Awesome 23. Groovy 24. Mondo 25. Outrageous 26. Funky 27. DP1 Gate 28. DP2 Key 29. DP2 Gate 30. DS1 Key 31. DSH SW exit 32. DSH DS2 exit 33. DS2 34. VD1 Gate 35. VD2 Key 36. VD2Gate 37. VGH 38. VD3 39. VD4 40. C#3 41. CBA CM exit 42. CM 43. C#4 44. FoI1 Key 45. FGH FoI1 exit 46. FoI1 Gate 47. FoI2 Key 48. FoI2 Gate 49. FoI3 Gate 50. FGH FoI4 exit 51. FoI4 Key 52. FoI5 53. FF 54. SW4 Gate 55. SW3 Gate 56. SW2 Gate 57. VS1 Gate 58. VS2 59. VS3 60. VF 61. BB1 62. BB2 63. FoI4 64. FoI3 Key 65. C#5 66. CI1 67. CGH 68. CI2 Key 69. CS 70. CI2 Gate 71. CI3 Gate 72. CI3 CF exit 73. CF 74. CI4 75. CI5 76. C#6 <-------WE ARE HERE 77. SGS 78. VoB1 79. VoB2 Gate 80. VGH Key 81. C#7 82. VGH Gate 83. VoB3 84. VoB4 Gate 85. VoB2 Key 86. VF BACK DOOR CI3b is probably the hardest level in the game and it is done, so progress should be good from here to the end. :)
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CI3b is probably the hardest level in the game and it is done, so progress should be good from here to the end. :)
Any chance for an ETA, then? Novel-like submission text aside, that is.
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We are trying to finish within the next two weeks, which should be very easy to accomplish. And yes, it might take some time to write our novel, but hopefully we can do it while finishing up the TAS so we don't have to wait to submit.
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I think there should be a category created on the TAS site for: fastest way to get the max 1-ups (or extra lives) (no need to finish the game) Sure, I am more interested to see that for all SMB games. But it can work for other games. What do you guys think?
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Check the first post on this page...
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This might belong in a separate discussion thread in the General section if you're serious about it. Personally, I don't think such a category is needed. I am not opposed to publishing a movie like that in the concept demo section though.
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And getting [URL=http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1246950829/9999999.smv]9999999[/URL] points is quite boring to watch...
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Tompa wrote:
Check the first post on this page...
Well, I did. I think what Fabian shown is the fatest way to get max lives in SMW. That is really what prompted me to post the question about "fastest way to get max lives" in games.
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And getting [URL=http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1246950829/9999999.smv]9999999[/URL] points is quite boring to watch...
Thanks for that max point show! Yes, watching a max point TAS can be boring, mostly because it takes a long time to watch something that repeats. The entertainment factor is gone. However, I think watching a "max lives" TAS will be different, mostly because it will be short to watch. Although I want to see this for all SMB games, but this idea can apply to most (if not all) games. Of course, games that doesn't offer some quick way to get extra lives are not interesting to watch. I think a DEMO or concept TAS is ok. Not sure what others thinks.
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Just letting everyone know that the Small Only run is currently at the Bowser Fight. The run should be submitted either today or tomorrow.
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Awesome! Can't wait to see it.
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Well the small only run has been uploaded to Google Videos. The quality isnt the greatest, but you can check it out at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2165135536330390728
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2007-05-08 19:08:03 Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would anyone be interested in a run of SMB3 without getting any mushrooms? So far I'm partway through the first airship - I'll post a WIP later tonight. So, why is it there was no interest in the SMB3 small run but so much in an SMW small run? EDIT: Just watched it. I just lost a dollar on a bet with Rridgway :(
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Chamale wrote:
2007-05-08 19:08:03 Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would anyone be interested in a run of SMB3 without getting any mushrooms? So far I'm partway through the first airship - I'll post a WIP later tonight. So, why is it there was no interest in the SMB3 small run but so much in an SMW small run?
Because I cannot think of any place in SMB3 where you have to be big (any powerup) to overcome the obstacles without super-human input.
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Well, if it were "All levels" then there would be some...
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SMB3 doesn't have as much easy flying as SMW so even without the powerups it'd look mostly the same. In SMW you can skip whole levels through flying, in SMB3 you can't (unless you use that P wing but that thing's strictly limited).
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I just watched that Small-Only TAS. It was amazing! Good job thegreginator and skamastaG.
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Okay. I am new at TAS runs, I've been reading the faqs and the trick pages for SMW. I understand the oscillating speed of Mario, but exactly how do we know when Mario is at his fastest value? I don't quite understand... Thank you in advance.