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Tompa wrote:
Edit: Getting the boomerang when you are going to get Marin? How in earth is that supposed to be possible?
Nevermind that, I don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks, I'll go hunt for a 1.0 rom. EDIT: I downloaded 1.7.2. It seems to only play record .vmv files. All your files are .vbm, which is only used by later versions. NOW what's the problem?
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Are you sure you have re-recording one? Check to see if it's 1.7.2 v 19.3. That's what I use and it works for me. Also, how do you check what version of the rom you're using if it isn't part of the filename?
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Takarifreak wrote:
Are you sure you have re-recording one? Check to see if it's 1.7.2 v 19.3. That's what I use and it works for me. Also, how do you check what version of the rom you're using if it isn't part of the filename?
Bwuh? FIVE version numbers? I don't know whether or not I have that...can you give me a link to a place I can get it? And what do you mean by turning rerecord on? I didn't know you could toggle it. EDIT: It appears that I have 20.0. Is this acceptable? Unfortunately, it still doesn't want to play your files...
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I say you should use the other version. I've heard people having errors with version 20, I haven't tried it myself though. Also... Me and Stef did some testings, and it seems like the trick to access kanalet castle early isn't working. Qujio had apparently not made it himself, even if it seemed like it when reading his post at SDA... So we should go with the regular route instead.
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Tompa wrote:
You have to have the Pegasus Boots in order to enter the Color Dungeon. Or else a message will appear that says you are a weak coward. Whoever wrote that guide has no idea what he/she is talking about.
I think it's actually the power bracelet that lets you in. After all, the gravestone says "If you have no strength, then you have no courage. Gravestones won't move for cowards."
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I know what it says, and I know that it is the Pegasus Boots.
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Hmm...it seems you're right. Weird, as I could have sworn it was the Power Bracelet. Oh well.
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Tompa knows his stuff about Zelda.
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Giuocob, are you working on the 100% TAS right now? Or do you still have emulator problems?
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Why is this thread not in the Game Boy section (combined with the other Link's Awakening thread to boot)?
Why, oh, why do I even <i>try</i> to understand my own species?
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N. Harmonik wrote:
Why is this thread not in the Game Boy section (combined with the other Link's Awakening thread to boot)?
Because it was 3 years old and ignored until you decided to needlessly bump it?
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Okay, I've finally gotten around to working on LADX again. I'm currently working with Tompa on a 100% TAS, since we decided that a v3 of the any% TAS would look too similar unless some new trick was discovered. Here's a WIP of the 100% TAS that completes dungeon 2. There are a lot of small optimizations and new tricks that I may describe later at the Link's Awakening Tricks page, but here's a partial list of the new tricks used: -Cornerboosting, saves 1-2 frames per corner -U/D+shield used to bounce off of enemies and bounce across pits (a great example is bouncing across the pit before the tail key, replacing the damage-boosting trick used in the any% TAS) -U/D+sword slashes to reach odd places on the screen (such as in the cave before the tail key, right at the beginning) Also coming up is a trick to save rupees; if you buy an item in the shop, then quickly buy another item before the rupee counter has a chance to count down, you can buy the item for "free". Example: Link has 200 rupees, but needs to buy both the shovel and bombs (total of 210 rupees required). If you buy the shovel, then quickly buy the bombs, you will end up with both items and 0 rupees at the end, even though you technically bought 10 extra rupees' worth of items. I wanted to post some progress for the benefit of anybody who is interested, and in the hopes that people might discover new tricks that would be useful for the TAS.
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In case someone wonder what the 100% definition looks like: All heart pieces. Fully upgraded items, such as the sword, bomb bag, bracelet etc. Getting the boomerang, finishing the trade quest. I think that sums it up... Keep on going Stef!
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Ah man, I am really looking forward to the finished product. Your wip looks so clean and optimized and those new tricks really surprised me.
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Red tunic, I'd assume.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that one. Red tunic FTW.
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Are you still working on the 100% run? If so, how much is complete?
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His current progress is in Kanalet Castle. Chef Stef is a bit busy with other stuff, but he's working on the run from time to time.
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That's good to know. I'm glad he didn't abandon it.
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fyi the warp run was beaten by about 15 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jZyqcOr9U don't know if its legit or not
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It's fake. Anyway, I'm improving Chef Stef's hour-long LADX run now. I've just beaten the first dungeon and am about 20 seconds ahead. I'll post a WIP later, maybe.
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Wow, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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AndyD wrote:
fyi the warp run was beaten by about 15 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jZyqcOr9U don't know if its legit or not
I wrote messages in the comments about it being fake and why it was fake, he didn't answer either of my messages and then disabled comments and ratings for his video. He's just a jerk who think he's better than others...
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Here's the first WIP: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1991697565/WIP.vbm It goes until getting the bananas and is 1349 frames (22.48 seconds) ahead of the published run. I would detail every little improvement (and plan to in the submission text), but there's a bigger issue at the moment: I've discovered something very important. If you save & quit immediately after buying something from the shop, the rupees don't go down any further than they had got to before you S&Qed. This has led me to propose a new rupee route. Current rupee route 220 rupees before shop -20 manipulated along the way -50 from chest in cave in forest -50 from chest in swamp before dungeon 2 -50 from chest inside dungeon 2 -Either 50 from chest west of the swamp or 50 from chest east of the village Buy shovel + one set of bombs, leave and re-enter shop, buy second set of bombs and steal bow. 300 rupees to get third ocarina song -100 from chest before getting ocarina -200 from chest at the start of dungeon 5 Proposed new rupee route 200 rupees before shop -50 from chest in cave in forest -50 from chest in swamp before dungeon 2 -50 from chest inside dungeon 2 -Either 50 from chest west of the swamp or 50 from chest east of the village Buy shovel + one set of bombs (buy before the rupees finish going down for the shovel), save & quit (this stops the rupees from going down at all), buy next set of bombs and steal bow. Left with roughly 130 rupees Some time is wasted by S&Qing rather than exiting and re-entering the shop, but this time is more than made up for by skipping one of the rupee chests later on. At least 300 rupees to get third ocarina song -Either 100 rupee chest before getting ocarina + rest (roughly 70) manipulated along the way, OR 200 rupee chest in dungeon 5, which brings our total above 300, meaning we'll have some left over at the end of the game. Both the 100 and 200 rupee chests are in our path anyway. The 200 rupee chest takes about 17 seconds to get, and the 100 rupee chest takes about 6 seconds to get. However, I'm unsure of how easy/possible it will be to manipulate as many as 70 rupees along the way. If it's possible, we'll skip the 200 rupee chest. Advantages of new route -One of the chests are skipped when collecting money for the third ocarina song. Will save either 17 or 6 seconds depending on which chest we skip. Disadvantages of new route -Time lost by S&Qing in the shop rather than exiting and re-entering. This is only a second or two so it should still end up in our favour anyway. -If we skip the 200 rupee chest, while saving roughly 17 seconds in theory, it would require a lot more manipulation along the way. I imagine most of this can be done without losing much (if any) time, but a few frames here and there will likely have to be lost. --- If anyone can find any flaws in any of this, or can think of any better way to do it, please let me know. In the end, this won't even save that much - maybe 15 seconds. But every improvement is worth it. The obvious best thing to do would be to get the 100 from the pre-ocarina chest and manipulate the rest along the way, but as I said above, I'm not sure how feasible this is. Thoughts? EDIT: Something else I just thought of which is possibly faster: 210 before shop -Stuff from before -10 manipulated along the way Buy bombs THEN shovel. S&Q as soon as you get the shovel to keep 200 of the rupees. Enter shop again and buy 10 bombs, then steal the bow. Left with 190 rupees. Get 100 from pre-ocarina chest + manipulate 10 along the way.
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