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Tompa
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Alyosha
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Good to see you still making progress on this Tompa! Keep it up! You surely don't need my help, but I still want to work on this and help it get to completion, so if you want me to look at anything besides Croctopus Chase just let me know.
Tompa
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Posting my current, but failed, any% WIP: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/29016843998994358 Dies because I'm unable to get the right value for the invisble barrel (000D4D) and I have no idea why. Giving up on this for now.
Alyosha
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^not sure if it helps, but when I release the barrel on frame 6530 it successfully opens the bonus, though I am still a good distance away from it. When I release the barrel the sound of a kremling being killed plays, not sure if this is expected or perhaps related to the reason it doesn't work on the frame you want it to. I've also reached the bonus area with different values of 000D4D while hitting the midway barrel at slower speeds, could be related to how it gets scrolled off screen
Tompa
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I should have mentioned that yes, it's possible to open the bonus from that far away. But not only will it give the wrong value to where the bonus will take me, it's also a huge timewaster. It has to be opened right next to the bonus, without the Mankey being involved at all. The midway barrel thing was interesting to me however... I can't see any direct logic to why that would change anything though =D. Were you able to get the value of the bonus for 000D4D that way?
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Well I don't know what value I am supposed to be looking for. All I wanted to see is if I could reach the bonus with a different value besides 0x23. I watched the youtube encode of the current run and noticed that the way the barrel moved after you hit the midway point was slightly different then in this WIP. So I just randomly tried slowing down at that point and yup I got a different pattern of values on my way there. What value are you looking for? Do you know why a kremgling death sound plays once I release the barrel?
Tompa
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The value you want is 20. If you get a different value, but can still open the bonus, it's useless, because it can only be done from far away. The only effect that should happen is opening the bonus, no enemies can be killed that way. The reason why you hear an enemy getting killed is because when you are holding the barrel that Mankey throws, value 35, the barrel will hit Mankey and kill him. This happens when you release Y with the invis barrel, then if you keep moving forward, the bonus can spawn, changes the value of D4D and opens the bonus with the throw.
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hmm ok, I will do some experimenting and see if I can get that then. So far going slower there is the only way I could change the pattern. Nothing I did after that point seemed to have any effect whatsoever. But 20 is one of the values I at least pretty commonly see, so getting it seems like it should be possible. EDIT: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/29037157216232902 Here is a file that correctly gets into the bonus. You can see that I slowed down at 2 places. The first is at the midway barrel and the second is right before the bonus. The first seems to impact the cycle I get on, the second is just waiting a few frame ofr the correct value to show up once I get a good cycle. I don't know really what's going on, this is just my random testing but I hope it gives you some insights.
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I'll try to look into this more later on. For now, I'll focus on 101%. Just finished Winky's Walkway, saved 10 frames.
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I was stuck in Bouncy Bonanza, 2-3, for a long time, being unable to bypass the first bee after the midway barrel, so I put the project on hold for a long time. Until picking it up again and found a method to proceed. Yay. http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/31763216475747676
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Oh Awesome! Glad to see more progress here. Hope things go smoother now Tompa.
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Second world is done: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/31989738981844773 Link to video I'm still going to test a few things on the last level. But I just had my own little deadline to upload this today.
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Great Stuff Tompa! Millstone Mayhem was surprising.
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WOW! Awesome improvements in 3-3 and Bonus 1 of 3-5!
My homepage --Currently not much motived for TASing as before...-- But I'm still working.
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I like how it butchers the intended route and how some shortcut are used. Keep on!
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Yes, the Any All TAS is being done by me, no I don't have any WIPs yet, still on the fence about croctopus chase tho :/ I'm a beginner TASer... "Just don't do it." But it's faster D: This TAS will feature TEN different faster SJRs. Speedrun uses 3. I hope to improve on the loopy SJR too. I have very minor experience with lua. Just the basics really. I wrote a alternative RAM watch tool for convenience. I made it so it displays things like speed relevant to which kong is in front. Any tips are appreciated, and I will have my W1 WIP done soon!
I didn't kill donkey, I saved it. Current projects: Misc Donkey hacks :) Past projects: Pacifist DKC1 DKC1 Entrance randomizer DKC2 Entrance randomizer DKDC (a troll hack of DKC1) DKC1 Enemy randomizer (among other things)
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Link to video My W1 WIP is done!
I didn't kill donkey, I saved it. Current projects: Misc Donkey hacks :) Past projects: Pacifist DKC1 DKC1 Entrance randomizer DKC2 Entrance randomizer DKDC (a troll hack of DKC1) DKC1 Enemy randomizer (among other things)
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I just realized how disgusting this looks, next WIP will be JUST the game
I didn't kill donkey, I saved it. Current projects: Misc Donkey hacks :) Past projects: Pacifist DKC1 DKC1 Entrance randomizer DKC2 Entrance randomizer DKDC (a troll hack of DKC1) DKC1 Enemy randomizer (among other things)
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I didn't kill donkey, I saved it. Current projects: Misc Donkey hacks :) Past projects: Pacifist DKC1 DKC1 Entrance randomizer DKC2 Entrance randomizer DKDC (a troll hack of DKC1) DKC1 Enemy randomizer (among other things)
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why is there a separate thread for this?it's got a game thread and it's not that different at all,just keep the wips at the original thread
I want all good TAS inside TASvideos, it's my motto. TAS i'm interested: Megaman series, specially the RPGs! Where is the mmbn1 all chips TAS we deserve? Where is the Command Mission TAS? i'm slowly moving away from TASing fighting games for speed, maybe it's time to start finding some entertainment value in TASing.
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does it? didn't realize
I didn't kill donkey, I saved it. Current projects: Misc Donkey hacks :) Past projects: Pacifist DKC1 DKC1 Entrance randomizer DKC2 Entrance randomizer DKDC (a troll hack of DKC1) DKC1 Enemy randomizer (among other things)
Tompa
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So the TAS is once again up to 4-4, Croctopus Chase. Being 2966 frames ahead of the version Alyosha posted. http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/33917370351386761 And now the TAS will likely be stuck for a couple of months (again), if I'm not quitting completely (again).
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Tompa wrote:
And now the TAS will likely be stuck for a couple of months (again), if I'm not quitting completely (again).
But you said you would skip for now and go back D:
I didn't kill donkey, I saved it. Current projects: Misc Donkey hacks :) Past projects: Pacifist DKC1 DKC1 Entrance randomizer DKC2 Entrance randomizer DKDC (a troll hack of DKC1) DKC1 Enemy randomizer (among other things)
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