[MOD EDIT: Posts split from Thread #21963: Political messages in submission notes (split from 6789S) -Mothrayas]
One of the most troubling aspects of Social Justice/Progressivism is that it's the worst kind of religion. Namely, one that doesn't realize it's a religion.
Even the most zealous Christian/Muslim/Jew understands, on some level, that they're following a specific belief system, and not everyone else in the world does. With Social Justice/Progressivism, there is no recognition whatsoever. Every single issue, even economics and tax rates, becomes "human rights, brah!" and if you disagree, that must naturally mean you're an evil bigot, an ignorant moron, or both.
Incidentally, upthorn's submission text does violate the site's rules against hate speech. Black Lives Matter is a very political group that proudly identifies as "Marxist" and seek, among other things, to end the nuclear family. (All on their website)
More to the point, they're virulently anti-Semitic, blame Jews for most of what's wrong in the US (a quality they share with many "far right" groups), especially as oppressors of blacks, and want to destroy Israel through the BDS movement.
So upthorn is blatantly promoting an anti-Semitic group, unknowingly or not.
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I mean if you're here to create blatant misinformation and disinformation then provide the citation of the sites that we should be condemning you on, on these "facts".
Is Black Lives Matter anti-Semitic?
TL;DR:
- Black Lives Matter is more of a diverse movement than a top-down organization, so it’s difficult to flatly state what Black Lives Matter beliefs are.
- More than 600 Jewish organizations have declared support for Black Lives Matter.
- Some organizations affiliated with Black Lives Matter have expressed anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian sentiments that some Jewish groups view as anti-Semitic.
Do you actually have anything to add to the conversation or are you deliberately smearing? 'Cause right now you're smearing shit.
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Black Lives Matter just wants the police to STOP KILLING INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE.
How that is considered hate speech to you I have no idea. That Coolaid must be really tasty for you to believe that.
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[citation needed]
Also, BLM is a movement, not an unified faction. What one blog or website says in the name of BLM does not represent the movement as a whole. The core movement is about protesting incidents of police brutality and racially motivated violence. Anything else is views of individual people or organizations that are not directly representative of the movement itself.
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The BLM parent org website was cleaned up sometime recently to remove those references, it had them since 2015 or 2016 until a few months ago. It's quite accurate that the international organization using the slogan as a name doesn't have much to do with local protesters, however at the same time the parent org receives most of the fundraising benefit out of the popularity of the slogan. That system is a bit extra complicated because the BLM parent org works in the ActBlue fundraising network, which "fact checks" will try to tell you doesn't help Democratic political funding but mislead due to the concept of Economy of Scale (even if the money doesn't go directly to Democratic political campaigns, it de facto allows them to spend less on the costs of fundraising, and the system has fine print that allows money to be reshuffled if it goes unspent).
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It's in line with what he said too
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Just pointing it out further toward the guy who basically said "in today's fucked up world, if you don't care about human rights, you get labelled as a bigot!":
The most depressing thing in the world is the idea that caring about people is "progressive" as opposed to "literally how humanity should have always been from the dawn of humankind". I'm truly sorry your worldview has been so corrupted by your bigotry.
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That's always the go-to excuse of social justice ideologues when called out on their oppressive and discriminatory policies.
They want to severely restrict people's freedom of speech, as well as mandate compelled speech. They want harsh punishments for people who merely express their dissenting opinions, or do not conform to the compelled speech rules that they are trying to impose. This includes trying to get them fired from their jobs, having companies refuse to offer them their services, them being shunned from society, them being thrown in jail, and in the most extreme cases even physically assaulted (which has become more and more common in later years).
They want racial segregation, and advocate for ending legislation that forbids racial segregation, discrimination and favoritism (something that they tried to do eg. in the state of California). They want people treated differently based on race, sex and other such characteristics, they want racial and gender discrimination eg. in hiring and school enrollment, they want separate spaces for people based eg. on race. There's a good reason why they are called with the moniker "regressive left".
And that's just a few examples. The whole list would be quite long. And they have been more and more radicalized by the year. Just a mere 5 or so years ago they almost never resorted to physical violence in order to push their agenda. They merely resorted to physically blocking people's free movement, disrupting events with loud noises, pulling fire alarms and so on, and harassing people they didn't like mostly via words and defamatory smearing campaigns. Nowadays, however, they have become so emboldened that they regularly physically assault people and burn buildings.
But when called out on these totalitarian oppressive policies, they always resort to the same excuse: "It's just caring about people." You see, they are the ones with "empathy".
I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. People with empathy do not assault other people, harass them, lie about them, organize smearing campaigns, discriminate against them, nor destroy their property. That's not empathy. That's bigotry and totalitarianism.
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Politifact, seriously? You might as well tell me what your neighbor's dog has to say on the matter. At least it's less likely to be an absurd lie.
Lefty Jewish organizations support BLM because they're lefties first and foremost. Same reason Lefty Jewish organizations support Ilhan Omar, the BDS movement in general (whose stated goal is the destruction of Israel), decry Israel as evil and racist, Hamas (whose charter calls for the elimination of all Jews worldwide), etc.
Incidentally, there were no shortage of German Jews in the 1930's who supported the National Socialist party, either. I guess the Nazis weren't anti-semitic, either?
Pretty pathetic attempt at Jew-washing. Yes, BLM hates Jews, whether in the US or in Israel. It's an anti-Semitic hate group.
Own it.
This is comical. They have a website where they outline their policies very clearly. No leader within the organization has disputed calling themselves Marxists, calling for an end to the nuclear family, or supporting the BDS movement.
This is projection of the worst kind.
The same guy who argues that the cops (who I dislike as a whole, incidentally) are a bunch of bloodthirsty racist killers who start firing their guns the moment they see a minority is now pointing and shrieking at me stating facts that Black Lives Matter admits themselves.
In Los Angeles, Congregation Beth Israel's walls were defaced with graffiti reading, "F___ Israel" and "Free Palestine".
Locals reported thugs shouting, "F___ Jews" at them. While too many Modern Orthodox organizations, including the OU and RCA, have issued statements pandering to the racist Black Lives Matter movement, and too many local synagogues have joined the anti-police mob, a Chabad Rabbi has some strong words for the ugly hatred on display in Los Angeles with the full complicity of the authorities.
Just pointing it out further toward the guy who basically said "in today's fucked up world, if you don't care about human rights, you get labelled as a bigot!":
IronSlayer wrote:
With Social Justice/Progressivism, there is no recognition whatsoever. Every single issue, even economics and tax rates, becomes "human rights, brah!" and if you disagree, that must naturally mean you're an evil bigot, an ignorant moron, or both.
The most depressing thing in the world is the idea that caring about people is "progressive" as opposed to "literally how humanity should have always been from the dawn of humankind". I'm truly sorry your worldview has been so corrupted by your bigotry.
Dude, pointing-and-shrieking "Bigot! Bigot!" at anyone disagreeing with you isn't going to keep working when your wonderful "progressive" (ie communist) policies keep turning California further and further into a miserable hellhole.
At present, the state has
-Rolling blackouts.
-Major water shortages/droughts.
-Another small business killing lockdown.
-Almost half of America's homeless.
-Insane spikes in crime of all kind, including murders.
-This past summer, a bunch of runaway wildfires that destroyed dozens of communities and made it unhealthy to even breath the air outside, a combination of environmental policies and Antifa arson.
-Crippling debt into the tens of billions.
-Mass exodus of businesses and long-time residents to other states.
And it's going to get much, much worse. Governor Newsom, fresh off partying with lobbyists (all without a mask) at the French Laundry, has already announced his support for "reparations". I'm sure all the whites, Hispanics, and Asians will be thrilled about paying taxes to blacks or black organizations.
Again, shouting "bigot!" at anyone who is tired of this glorious progressive utopia isn't going to work for much longer.
Just pointing it out further toward the guy who basically said "in today's fucked up world, if you don't care about human rights, you get labelled as a bigot!":
IronSlayer wrote:
With Social Justice/Progressivism, there is no recognition whatsoever. Every single issue, even economics and tax rates, becomes "human rights, brah!" and if you disagree, that must naturally mean you're an evil bigot, an ignorant moron, or both.
The most depressing thing in the world is the idea that caring about people is "progressive" as opposed to "literally how humanity should have always been from the dawn of humankind". I'm truly sorry your worldview has been so corrupted by your bigotry.
Dude, pointing-and-shrieking "Bigot! Bigot!" at anyone disagreeing with you isn't going to keep working when your wonderful "progressive" (ie communist) policies keep turning California further and further into a miserable hellhole.
At present, the state has
-Rolling blackouts.
-Major water shortages/droughts.
-Another small business killing lockdown.
-Almost half of America's homeless.
-Insane spikes in crime of all kind, including murders.
-This past summer, a bunch of runaway wildfires that destroyed dozens of communities and made it unhealthy to even breath the air outside, a combination of environmental policies and Antifa arson.
-Crippling debt into the tens of billions.
-Mass exodus of businesses and long-time residents to other states.
And it's going to get much, much worse. Governor Newsom, fresh off partying with lobbyists (all without a mask) at the French Laundry, has already announced his support for "reparations". I'm sure all the whites, Hispanics, and Asians will be thrilled about paying taxes to blacks or black organizations.
Again, shouting "bigot!" at anyone who is tired of this glorious progressive utopia isn't going to work for much longer.
...do you realize the nonsensical things that you're spewing for pseudo-intellectual clout points are the reason why things haven't changed throughout time?
First link "Released Monday, the platform of the Movement for Black Lives calls for “an end to the war against Black people” and is the campaign’s first comprehensive document addressing specific federal policies."
Note this is not actually Black Lives Matter, it's one organization that supports the movement, but it in itself is not the movement.
If you are unwilling to read, I don't see you contributing much to this discussion any time at all.
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Just pointing it out further toward the guy who basically said "in today's fucked up world, if you don't care about human rights, you get labelled as a bigot!":
IronSlayer wrote:
With Social Justice/Progressivism, there is no recognition whatsoever. Every single issue, even economics and tax rates, becomes "human rights, brah!" and if you disagree, that must naturally mean you're an evil bigot, an ignorant moron, or both.
The most depressing thing in the world is the idea that caring about people is "progressive" as opposed to "literally how humanity should have always been from the dawn of humankind". I'm truly sorry your worldview has been so corrupted by your bigotry.
Dude, pointing-and-shrieking "Bigot! Bigot!" at anyone disagreeing with you isn't going to keep working when your wonderful "progressive" (ie communist) policies keep turning California further and further into a miserable hellhole.
At present, the state has
-Rolling blackouts.
-Major water shortages/droughts.
-Another small business killing lockdown.
-Almost half of America's homeless.
-Insane spikes in crime of all kind, including murders.
-This past summer, a bunch of runaway wildfires that destroyed dozens of communities and made it unhealthy to even breath the air outside, a combination of environmental policies and Antifa arson.
-Crippling debt into the tens of billions.
-Mass exodus of businesses and long-time residents to other states.
And it's going to get much, much worse. Governor Newsom, fresh off partying with lobbyists (all without a mask) at the French Laundry, has already announced his support for "reparations". I'm sure all the whites, Hispanics, and Asians will be thrilled about paying taxes to blacks or black organizations.
Again, shouting "bigot!" at anyone who is tired of this glorious progressive utopia isn't going to work for much longer.
...do you realize the nonsensical things that you're spewing for pseudo-intellectual clout points are the reason why things haven't changed throughout time?
So none of those are happening right now in California? Care to point out which ones?
Again, you can only hand-wave away the horrors and misery of progressive policies for so long while focusing on those evil "bigots" (or "capitalist saboteurs" as they were known in the Soviet Union).
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First link "Released Monday, the platform of the Movement for Black Lives calls for “an end to the war against Black people” and is the campaign’s first comprehensive document addressing specific federal policies."
Note this is not actually Black Lives Matter, it's one organization that supports the movement, but it in itself is not the movement.
If you are unwilling to read, I don't see you contributing much to this discussion any time at all.
So the official Black Lives Matter website, written by various Black Lives Matter leaders, in no way, shape, or form represents Black Lives Matter according to you.
On the flipside, a single cop effectively represents all cops, right? (Again, I'm very negative towards cops as a whole, so it gives me no pleasure to partially defend them)
Unlike you, I'm very happy that you're contributing to this discussion.
I know that other progressives won't mind the blatant hypocrisy since they learn to accept hypocrisy with their mother's milk (the famous "2 plus 2 equals 4 but occasionally 5" from 1984), but for those who aren't progressives, your posts are more effective than anything I can write myself.
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Someone lock the thread until the bigot goes away, thanks in advance.
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Someone lock the thread until the bigot goes away, thanks in advance.
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Bigot! Bigot!
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Man, bigots get so mad when you call them bigots. It's almost like they're bigots or something!
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Man, bigots get so mad when you call them bigots. It's almost like they're bigots or something!
Progressive projection can be funny. And revealing.
You're mad enough to request the entire topic be locked. As for me, anyone can judge for themselves whether my posts are those of anyone even remotely upset by the same tiresome, unoriginal, predictable progressive rhetoric we've all heard ad naseum for the last 10-15 years, as the US (and your specific state of California) continues to spiral further and further down the drain.
Note, of course, how desperate Samsara was to distract from all the disasters going on in California, all of which can be traced to progressive policies, and none of which have anything to do with "bigots", especially since California has had a Democrat super-majority for a long time now.
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"PROGRESSIVE POLICIES" ISN'T CONTROLLING THE WEATHER YOU FUCKING BIGOT
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