feos: It may look like I tased this game just to reject this submission, but after all it was a gangbang team effort and every participant is credited in the new submission. Also while I was writing this, the movie got canceled :D
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FilipeTales wrote:
feos wrote:
How about you read my post.
I read your post right now but all the improvements that all people made, it made me afraid of my TAS being rejected.
It started when ThunderAxe31 saved 119 frames and my first TAS got rejected later on he posted his improved TAS but without me being not co-author so read a quote.
how the person who makes the final improvement makes a new submission with all participants as co-authors.
is it was true or not?
Framewar means several people compete in improving the movie further and further, not just a single basic improvement that only proves that the original run was sloppy.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
FilipeTales, even if your submission gets rejected, nothing else will happen. It's just a formality, really. I still don't get why some people get so afraid or offended at getting rejection verdicts. Even the best of us can get a rejection when they wouldn't expect. I also got some unexpected rejections.
Maybe you're just afraid of getting your submission privileges revoked, but there is nothing to be scared of. Submission privileges are revoked only if a submitter makes the same mistake multiple times in a short timespan, which is not your case (yet). We would warn you in advance in case we begin to consider such. And even if you get your submission privileges revoked, it doesn't mean getting banned. A user with limited privileges can still use the forum, the chat, and upload movies in their userfile space. Also, a limited user can still be included in the author list of movies submitted by other users. And lastly, the most important part: if a limited user proves to have become able to meet the rules, then we can give back their submission privileges.
So please, stop bringing up this topic on the forums and chats. If we will find something wrong with your actions, we won't ban you without warning you first. Some staff members (me included) will also help you, if needed. Ok?
FilipeTales wrote:
It started when ThunderAxe31 saved 119 frames and my first TAS got rejected later on he posted his improved TAS but without me being not co-author so read a quote.
Your first submission was rejected because it was generally suboptimal through the whole movie. All I did was demonstrating it. Then I remade the whole TAS from scratch, so your original movie was not used by me, and thus I was the only author of the new Toki Tori TAS.
User movie #58933875880859104
Couldn't find any improvements on stage 1, I think that's tapped. Stage 2 seems tapped as well but I might have overlooked something. Stage 3 I found 9 additional frames of improvement on. If there's much left to find, it'd probably be in stage 3.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
With truncated blank input, that's now sub 2:12, nice stuff.
EDIT: User movie #58944203154937925
9 frames saved off Bloop's file after I truncated the blank input he left at the end. All this improvement was lag reduction by changing up the locations of where we let go of right or press left.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
You do know that it doesn't matter who makes the last improvement. Due to this being a frame war, we're going to need to make a new submission and include all the contributors.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Co-authorship and improving upon other people's work is never a bad thing. TASing is more about collaboratively working together to reach the fastest possible time than competing against one another to get credit. Your efforts are not going to be invalidated by other people trying to help, and make small improvements to optimisation - you should be happy for their help.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
