Posted: 1/15/2019 12:30 AM
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Post subject: TAS of 2018 -- Super Metroid by Sniq!
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Voting for TAS of 2018 - until 2019-01-21 23:59 UTC Candidates (list): [3617] GBA Mega Man Zero 2 by Hetfield90 & Flameberger in 49:47.57 [3653] SNES Super Metroid by Sniq in 35:58.31 [3664] GBC Pokémon: Yellow Version by TiKevin83 in 1:36:41.68 [3720] PSX Klonoa: Door to Phantomile by lapogne36 in 34:46.37 [3731] GC Super Mario Sunshine by zelpikukirby & Goldfire in 1:08:32.58 [3774] ZXS Castlevania: Spectral Interlude "100%" by Noxxa in 34:33.12 [3791] DS Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time by Migu in 1:52:56.29 [3809] Linux Mari0 "Portal mappack" by lexikiq & Masterjun in 03:05.23 [3812] NES Super Mario Bros. 3 "warps" by Lord_Tom, Maru & Tompa in 10:24.94 [3824] PCE Bonk's Revenge by EZGames69 & Memory in 17:18.24 [3828] Genesis Comix Zone by Archanfel in 08:38.67 [3878] GBA Dragon Ball: Advanced Adventure by WarHippy in 33:31.87 The winner: [3653] SNES Super Metroid by Sniq in 35:58.31!
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Posted: 1/15/2019 12:38 AM
Post subject: Super Metroid and Super Mario Sunshine
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I recommend Super Metroid. This run is definitely the best 2018 run ever! This run was mind blowing when I watched for the first time. My reactions were strong when I watched those new techniques, like superjumps used on Lower Norfair (after beating Ridley), or using X-Plasma with 2 bosses, or even skipping a elevator! EDIT: I also voted Super Mario Sunshine. This was also another impressive run, starting with a certain TAS of this game I've watched back from 2014. This game isn't a lot broken like SM64, but was still superhuman (some levels aren't easy to beat on real-time).
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Posted: 1/15/2019 4:14 PM
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I have seen all 2064 currently published TASes, and [3653] SNES Super Metroid by Sniq in 35:58.31 is my #1 ranked out of all of them. It is also the only movie that I have given a 10.0 in both entertainment and technique. I voted exclusively for this movie. It is the TAS of the Millennium. I would find it disappointing if [3731] GC Super Mario Sunshine by zelpikukirby & Goldfire in 1:08:32.58 ended up with more votes thanks to the "I guess I'll give my second choice a vote too" system.
Posted: 1/15/2019 4:25 PM
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Arc wrote:
I would find it disappointing if [3731] GC Super Mario Sunshine by zelpikukirby & Goldfire in 1:08:32.58 ended up with more votes thanks to the "I guess I'll give my second choice a vote too" system.
Mario always wins. There is nothing surprising.
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Posted: 1/15/2019 4:27 PM
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Arc wrote:
I have seen all 2064 currently published TASes, and [3653] SNES Super Metroid by Sniq in 35:58.31 is my #1 ranked out of all of them. It is also the only movie that I have given a 10.0 in both entertainment and technique. I voted exclusively for this movie. It is the TAS of the Millennium. I would find it disappointing if [3731] GC Super Mario Sunshine by zelpikukirby & Goldfire in 1:08:32.58 ended up with more votes thanks to the "I guess I'll give my second choice a vote too" system.
I do not recall you being able to see how people voted. Maybe people voted exclusively for Super Mario Sunshine. Maybe people voted for Super Metroid as a second choice.
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Posted: 1/15/2019 8:17 PM
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I do not recall you [sic] being able to see how people voted. Maybe people voted exclusively for Super Mario Sunshine. Maybe people voted for Super Metroid as a second choice.
At the time of my post, Challenger's post was the only one in the thread. He stated that he felt that Super Metroid should win, but he added that he also voted for Sunshine. Although I didn't quote him, a reasonable person could conclude that I had read his post and was stating my opinion about it. It is also objectively true that Super Metroid (8.9, 9.9) has both a higher entertainment and technical rating than Sunshine (8.7, 9.5) from the community as a whole, not just from me (and you). In fact, Super Metroid has the highest technical rating of all 2064 movies. Yet here we are; Sunshine is going to win.
Posted: 1/15/2019 8:22 PM
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my favorite run isn't winning and therefore the voting system is broken
Posted: 1/15/2019 8:29 PM
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Arc, did you know that it’s possible that a TAS could not win an award, and still be considered a good TAS?
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Posted: 1/15/2019 8:36 PM
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A lot of people don't even bother with ratings but do bother with these awards.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Posted: 1/15/2019 10:20 PM
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Arc wrote:
In fact, Super Metroid has the highest technical rating of all 2064 movies.
Are you sure about that? "But this only has 3 votes so it doesn't count!" In that case, I'll just point out that there's atleast 6 other games with a technical rating of 9.9, 2 of which have more votes than Super Metroid. Also, last I checked, TAS of the year was not determined by raw ratings, otherwise we wouldn't be voting here. But we are voting here, as there are more voters (as pointed out by Memory) and more factors for voting. Edit: A Link to the Past "full inventory" would win TAS of the year if selected by raw ratings, followed by Super Metroid/SMB3 "warps"/Castlevania.
Posted: 1/16/2019 3:02 AM
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Okay, I think I've devoted about half my day now to checking into and roughly going over every TAS candidate's encode, submission text, audience feedback, technical and entertainment rating, platform, aswell as movie statistics, and after multiple double-checking back and forth, I think I now at this point can for me personally without remaining self-doubts reduce/limit my choices down to the following three (in order as they appear in the poll): ° [3653] SNES Super Metroid (JPN/USA) in 35:58.31 by Sniq ° [3774] ZXS Castlevania: Spectral Interlude (v1.1) "100%" in 34:33.11 by Mothrayas ° [3878] GBA Dragon Ball: Advanced Adventure (JPN) in 33:31.87 by WarHippy I tried to look at this from a faithful perspective parallel to how submission polls are handled where one's requested to watch a movie before voting, and I'm sorry if my choices aren't compatible with others views (which I think to some degree is part of the nature of a poll anyway), but I think I tried well enough for a fair comparison in my evaluation on which of these TASes fit best to be titled overall as ''TAS of the year 2018''.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 7:43 AM
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:41 AM
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Seeing we are reaching the end of this decade it would be interesting to see a "TAS of the decade award" every TAS of the year since 2010-2020 place them in a poll and vote for the best of the best of this decade. I wonder what the trophy would be, maybe a golden 10 surrounded by the classic video games pets, or maybe consoles? Maybe the poll can take place between January 21-28?
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:46 AM
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Evil_3D wrote:
Seeing we are reaching the end of this decade it would be interesting to see a "TAS of the decade award" every TAS of the year since 2010-2020 place them in a poll and vote for the best of the best of this decade.
Seconded.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:18 PM
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Really Arc? Did you really lower your rating on Pokemon Crystal from a 9.9 to a 9.8 just to make the technical rating tied with Super Metroid? (The answer is yes and I'm quite disappointed.) edit: 9.7* edit: you can stop now arc
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Deliberately dropping the vote after the light being shone on your behavior and then keeping up the persistence Arc well that is a dick move for you to do. I mean I've heard it's possible to have your Ratings on Published movies revoked, but that was for extreme cases. Edit: It's been restored. GG.
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Posted: 1/17/2019 12:59 AM
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I am sorry to see that had to be your 5000th post. Insofar as the voting goes, I expected three runs to shine with one specific run winning. I said as much when the vote started in the discord. In order to avoid biasing anything further I won't explain more until after the vote is over.
Posted: 1/20/2019 1:25 AM
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That’s like saying a politician shouldn’t campaign so as to not bias the voters. Unless you personally disliked all three of those runs I’d appreciate hearing your discussion.
Posted: 1/22/2019 12:00 AM
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Congratulations to Sniq for taking the TAS of 2018 award with [3653] SNES Super Metroid by Sniq in 35:58.31!
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:03 AM
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Mothrayas wrote:
Congratulations to Sniq for taking the TAS of 2018 award with [3653] SNES Super Metroid by Sniq in 35:58.31!
Like I explained before, this run is definitely the best 2018 run ever! So, this was obvious for me that would be the winner.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 12:29 AM
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congrats on the win Sniq :)
Posted: 1/22/2019 12:45 AM
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:00 AM
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Im just glad Bonk’s Revenge managed to get 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th place at once.
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