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Posted: 2/22/2017 5:45 AM

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ThunderAxe31

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Amaraticando wrote:

I'm still wondering what's the purpose of some body upgrades...

Me too lol. I suppose the only way to discover that is by reading the game code... Too bad mGBA doesn't support trace logging. But maybe there are still other ways...

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Posted: 2/22/2017 10:54 PM

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ThunderAxe31 wrote:

Amaraticando wrote:
I'm still wondering what's the purpose of some body upgrades...
Me too lol. I suppose the only way to discover that is by reading the game code... Too bad mGBA doesn't support trace logging. But maybe there are still other ways...

I'm pretty sure the effects include: * Increasing the number of questions of what the equipment does * Decreasing the number of seconds available for analyzing other mechanics in the game * Changes distribution of discussions to include the effects of equipment with greater frequency I'd say the effects are pretty varied. I did not know this game could attach such an intricate effect on anything in it.

Posted: 2/23/2017 10:45 AM

Post subject: BizHawk 1.12.0 Released! No more crashes!

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This new version is amazing, it didn't crashed even once to me! Click here to download it: https://github.com/TASVideos/BizHawk/releases/download/1.12.0/BizHawk-1.12.0.zip By the way, a little reminder: if someone finds a game-breaking glitch and is not sure if it falls under one of the categories I've listed in the main topic, just ask me privately.

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Posted: 2/23/2017 12:48 PM

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Nah don't worry, we're good.

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Posted: 2/24/2017 1:55 AM

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Don't worry, we're gonna wipe the floor with you guys.

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Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 4/1/2017 9:29 AM

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where are you Aglar

Posted: 4/17/2017 12:03 PM

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So, the deadline is close now. Any news about how many teams did not submit a run yet ?

Posted: 4/17/2017 12:10 PM

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lapogne36 wrote:

So, the deadline is close now. Any news about how many teams did not submit a run yet ?

I'm not going to answer to this question, but the contestants are free to say anything they want. I just hope that no one will give away any info that may ruin the fairness of the competition.

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Posted: 4/17/2017 12:35 PM

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lapogne36 wrote:

So, the deadline is close now.

Wait, there are still 5 days!

Games are basically math with a visual representation of this math, that's why I make the scripts, to re-see games as math. My things: YouTube, GitHub, Pastebin, Twitter

Posted: 4/17/2017 8:15 PM

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There's a good chance a number of teams haven't submitted yet, and plan to use these final days to do touch-ups. There's probably a few that did submit just in case they don't come up with something better before the deadline. Though, 3 months is a lot of time to work on a single game. Curious if the margins will end up razor thin.

Posted: 4/17/2017 8:28 PM

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3 months is a lot of potential time to potentially work on a single game.

Warning: Might glitch to credits I will finish this ACE soon as possible (or will I?)

Posted: 4/19/2017 6:09 PM

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Rule question! This line is ambiguous:

The team that provides the movie file that completes the game from power-on to credits in the fastest time (input end) wins.

Which is it? Fastest time to reach credits? Or shortest input time (while still reaching the credits, but potentially later)?

Posted: 4/19/2017 6:28 PM

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If you read carefully and split up the sentence properly, it's not ambiguous. I agree that it's easy to overlook at first, though. The credits part just defines game completion.

The team that provides the movie file that completes the game from power-on to credits in the fastest time (input end) wins.

So, fastest input end wins.

http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.

Posted: 4/19/2017 6:52 PM

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For the first months this game was crap but bearable. From the end of march on it really got on my nerves and I hope to never hear from it again. Thankfully FatRatKnight and Exonym could keep going and finish the run.

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Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 4/19/2017 7:23 PM

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Rule question! This line is ambiguous:
The team that provides the movie file that completes the game from power-on to credits in the fastest time (input end) wins.
Which is it? Fastest time to reach credits? Or shortest input time (while still reaching the credits, but potentially later)?

As Mothrayas said, it's the second one: your goal is to reach the credits with a movie that ends input as early as possible, even if that may potentially result in a longer wait for triggering the credits.

my personal page - my YouTube channel - my GitHub - my Discord: thunderaxe31 <Masterjun> if you look at the "NES" in a weird angle, it actually clearly says "GBA"

Posted: 4/19/2017 11:41 PM

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ThunderAxe31 wrote:

[...] reach the credits with a movie that ends input as early as possible, [...]

That's what I thought. We've based our finisher input on that rule, so it's good to know we don't have to change things all of a sudden. I prefer the other way, myself, since I believe null input is still input, but ending input early is easier to compare.

Posted: 4/22/2017 12:13 AM

Post subject: 24 hours remaining

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The last 24 hours have started! IF YOU STILL DIDN'T SUBMIT A MOVIE THEN GOTTA GO FAST

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Posted: 4/22/2017 1:45 AM

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Wait, that thing speeds you up? RIP. -_-

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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:51 AM

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A script for simple frame comparisons, if you care. Can't go faster than faster you going.

Posted: 4/22/2017 7:23 AM

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when your game is awful but some retards still play it because of a contest

"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself. It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success." - Onkar Ghate

Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 4/22/2017 1:20 PM

Post subject: We're getting close to the deadline!

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Here is the precise countdown of the contest end: http://itsalmo.st/#dtc6-actual-end (shoutouts to Masterjun) Now it's your time for placing your bet about which team you think is going to win! As for DTC tradition, you can read and add jokes on the game resource page before it gets replaced with actual data: http://tasvideos.org/GameResources/GBx/ZookManZX4.html Specifically to the contestants: if there is someone in your team which never contributed to the run, you may ask me to bar the nickname and remove it from the YouTube encode title. Update (19:18 UTC): I'm still waiting for some submissions. If you still didn't receive my reply mail, contact me on IRC, forum PM or Discord: ThunderAxe31#1512 Update (19:30 UTC): I forgot to tell that I'm going to upload the submitted movie files to TASVideos user file storage. If you're not ok with this, you have to tell me before the deadline. The winning team's movie file will be uploaded regardless. Update (23:58 UTC): I'm about to start by uploading to TASVideos user storage the movie files submitted by the teams.

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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:10 AM

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It's written: Only the team I belong to can win

"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself. It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success." - Onkar Ghate

Bisqwit wrote:

Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.

Posted: 4/23/2017 12:32 AM

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what is this game even

Warning: Might glitch to credits I will finish this ACE soon as possible (or will I?)

Posted: 4/23/2017 1:06 AM

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Here's a few scripts we had: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/38508373147113065 http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/38508487412195834 http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/38508546028174499 http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/38508617604349368 I forget which ones go to what, but I think it's terrain, hitboxes, basic, and external radar, in that order.

Posted: 4/23/2017 1:28 AM

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Wow that ending input early trick. Well done finding that one. Congrats team 4. We only missed 3rd by a couple frames.... ouch. XD I have to say great work to Tompa for basically carrying the team. Also he found an instant mini boss kill that i didn't see in the winning submission, so good work on that too. This game sure was glitchy! Thanks for hosting ThunderAxe31, I didn't really like the game but the time frame to TAS it in seemed sufficient so good job estimating that right.

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