Post subject: Priest sells his Nintendo DS, forgets to delete child porn
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This one was just too hilarious not to share. Aside from the obvious question of why the hell was a priest using a DS of all things to collect child porn, it turns out the entire thing snowballed into a full-on investigation of Rudolph Bullman's hard drives, finding even more child porn in the process. The Destructoid version of the story is here, with Jim Sterling at his snarkiest: http://www.destructoid.com/priest-sells-ds-forgets-there-s-child-porn-on-it-224340.phtml My favourite part of the whole shtick has to be this quote:
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67-year-old Rudolph “Rudy” Carl Bullman admitted using the Nintendo handheld to access gay porn sites, but claimed he only ever visited pages that clearly stated the models were of age. After agreeing to let detectives search his computer, they found images of kids as young as twelve.
I just find it hilarious that Mr. Bullman went out of his way to clarify exactly which type of porn he was actually searching for. Just make sure to have this in the background while you're reading. Link to video
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"Well those aren't adults," accepted Bullman. He argued, however, that the images only appeared while he was searching for other types of naughtiness.
I guess he couldn't simply let good (child) porn go to waste.
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It's possible for someone to go on some antiquated file sharing network (like Kazaa or ED2K/eMule), search for porn and then download literally every result (selecting everything and clicking download), in that case maybe you'll get child porn without actually wanting it. There was a case like that here in the Netherlands. But if it's on your Nintendo DS, surely that means you consciously moved the data onto there. It don't doubt this guy will be found guilty.
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*rolls down on floor laughing out loud* Ahem. Really? How do you even store child porn images on a DS? And why?
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Mothrayas wrote:
How do you even store child porn images on a DS? And why?
SD card.
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rog wrote:
SD card.
Okay, that was a bit too obvious of a question. Still. Why would one store porn on an SD card in a DS?
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Mothrayas wrote:
rog wrote:
SD card.
Okay, that was a bit too obvious of a question. Still. Why would one store porn on an SD card in a DS?
Obviously for mobile viewing.
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Still. Why would one store porn on an SD card in a DS?
Maybe he thought it would make it less suspicious. Though, if I saw a 67-year-old man with a DS, I probably would find that suspicious anyway.
Post subject: Re: Priest sells his Nintendo DS, forgets to delete child porn
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theenglishman wrote:
Jim Sterling wrote:
67-year-old Rudolph “Rudy” Carl Bullman admitted using the Nintendo handheld to access gay porn sites, but claimed he only ever visited pages that clearly stated the models were of age. After agreeing to let detectives search his computer, they found images of kids as young as twelve.
I have always wondered why a person who's 17 years and 11 months old is considered a "child", but a month later he's suddenly an "adult". Is there a switch somewhere in people's brains that switches positions exactly at 18 years, 0 months, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds?
Post subject: Re: Priest sells his Nintendo DS, forgets to delete child porn
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Warp wrote:
I have always wondered why a person who's 17 years and 11 months old is considered a "child", but a month later he's suddenly an "adult". Is there a switch somewhere in people's brains that switches positions exactly at 18 years, 0 months, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds?
I think it's based on the law that says you're an adult at age 18. In the U.S. at least (and some other countries, I assume), someone who's 18 can legally do anything - vote, sell items to pawn shops, buy stock, etc. It gives a person a lot more freedom. So I guess that's why turning 18 is such a big deal. Of course there are adults that act like children, and probably always will. If there is a mental switch in people's minds, it might be the person making a resolution: "I'm 18 now, I should grow up and be more mature from now on." Not many people make that change right away, though, and usually you'll notice a person has grown up by his or her mid-20s. Of course, I speak not from experience, but from observation.
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I think it's based on the law that says you're an adult at age 18. In the U.S. at least (and some other countries, I assume), someone who's 18 can legally do anything - vote, sell items to pawn shops, buy stock, etc. It gives a person a lot more freedom. So I guess that's why turning 18 is such a big deal. Of course there are adults that act like children, and probably always will. If there is a mental switch in people's minds, it might be the person making a resolution: "I'm 18 now, I should grow up and be more mature from now on." Not many people make that change right away, though, and usually you'll notice a person has grown up by his or her mid-20s.
I wasn't really talking about psychology but about terminology. Calling a 17yo, or even a 15yo a "child" is quite a misnomer.
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Right. I guess I was rambling a little bit. I'm not sure why an 18 year old person is considered an adult either. Were you talking about the difference between pornographic pictures of a 17-year-old "child" and an 18-year-old "adult"? I don't see a difference either. Yet possession of pictures of only the former example is illegal. It's a difference of a year or less, so they should either both be illegal or both be legal.
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Why must we change the topic to gassing about random political things?
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How does what we're discussing relate to politics? Besides, we're not talking about "random...things". Warp asked a question, and we started a small discussion on the topic of his question.
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CoolKirby wrote:
Right. I guess I was rambling a little bit. I'm not sure why an 18 year old person is considered an adult either. Were you talking about the difference between pornographic pictures of a 17-year-old "child" and an 18-year-old "adult"? I don't see a difference either. Yet possession of pictures of only the former example is illegal. It's a difference of a year or less, so they should either both be illegal or both be legal.
I was not questioning the legality per se, because you have to put the limit somewhere. It will always be arbitrary (especially since people grow psychologically at different rates, and what's someone fully consensual act at 16 may be another person's big mistake at 20), but the limit just has to be somewhere. What makes me cringe is the usage of the term "child" in relation to these crimes regardless of which age the alleged victim actually is (as long as it's less than 18). There's certainly a huge difference between eg. pornographic pictures of a 16yo and a 6yo, and bunching them into the same category is trivializing the issue to the extreme. (At least law usually uses just the term "underage" rather than "child", so it's a lot less ambiguous, as "underage" is clearly defined in law.)
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I think it's because a phrase such as "underage porn" doesn't have a nice enough ring to it. "Child porn", on the other hand, has only two syllables—but what power!
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If you find 17 years olds sexually attractive (as an adult), you are a sick and have committed a felony in your heart. You can't always tell the difference, so to be safe you should only be attracted to 20 year olds and rising. If you think you might have pedophile tendencies, there's always the option to seek mental treatment.
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If you find 17 years olds sexually attractive (as an adult), you are a sick and have committed a felony in your heart.
??? There are plenty of sexually attractive 17 year olds. I don't and won't consider that a "felony in the heart" because physiologically they're well developed for sex, and many are having it right and left at that age. The main reason I don't want to deal with them as an adult is that, barring rare exceptions, they're stupid and/or immature.
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Kuwaga wrote:
If you find 17 years olds sexually attractive (as an adult), you are a sick and have committed a felony in your heart.
The logical followup question is: What makes a 18 years old so different? (Also, unlike most people seem to think, age of consent laws are not universal. They vary quite a lot, all the way from 14 to 21 in different countries. There's nothing magical about precisely 18 as the "right" age.)
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Kuwaga was pointing out an absurdity; IMO the real "sickness" starts below the point of ephebophilia (sexual attraction to young post-pubescent people).
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Post subject: Re: Priest sells his Nintendo DS, forgets to delete child porn
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Warp wrote:
I have always wondered why a person who's 17 years and 11 months old is considered a "child", but a month later he's suddenly an "adult". Is there a switch somewhere in people's brains that switches positions exactly at 18 years, 0 months, 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds?
Nothing magic happens. Its just a threshold. I'd also assume that not a whole ton of thought was put into the exact age. I'd assume that the law makers assumed a good percentage of teenagers are considered 'mature' enough to make decisions regarding sex by the age of 18. Would 16 be better? 20? 30? I'm not going to comment on that. Basically, you need some fixed threshold, because it would be foolish to have to examine each and every person's maturity to determine whether or not they are mature enough to appear in porn. Please fill out Gov't form B6: Maturity Measurement Scale 106-B7 before taking off your clothes. EDIT: Ooops
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I think Warp's gripe in this case is more with wording than estimating a threshold. A 17 y.o. person can be underage, but calling them a child makes no more sense than if they were a 30 y.o. Edit: Damn, nice sink.
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moozooh wrote:
I think Warp's gripe in this case is more with wording than estimating a threshold. A 17 y.o. person can be underage, but calling them a child makes no more sense than if they were a 30 y.o. Edit: Damn, nice sink.
Ah, I misunderstood. In that case, Wikipedia's article on the legal term minor explains it well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_%28law%29
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