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The goal of this TAS is to crash NES Tetris (Nintendo, 1989) as fast as possible. I suppose this is the sequel to this TAS: https://tasvideos.org/7624S I do have a sort of companion TAS to this submission that can be found here: https://youtu.be/VANrdLxnntY&t=0 which I may consider worthy of submitting on its own merits. You can find a level conversion sheet for this submission here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987042025624981534/1001200368086171709/Level_Conversion_Table.jpg This TAS features a boatload of RNG manipulation via pause abuse to delay when certain pieces hit the stack, and make it more likely that I get long bars for tetrises.
Seeing as this TAS may be the first of its kind, here are a couple of the possible improvements that I could make: Maintaining a center well for the entirety of the movie. Playing closer to the top of the screen (within reason of course).
A version 4.0 is currently in production.
nymx: Claiming for judging.
nymx: I had hoped to hear from the author, but I doubt anything can be said to explain the optimization issue that I have concerns over. The technique of building a tower to land pieces faster, was not used. If that had been the case, then at minimum we could have put this submission into "Playground"...as previously mentioned by feos.
I'm sorry, you have done great in your improvements...but please give it one more try. For now, I'm rejecting this due to optimization once again.

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Posted: 5/2/2023 2:57 AM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #8254: m_riss's NES Tetris "Fastest Crash%" in 32:46.76
Posted: 5/2/2023 3:11 AM
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Nice work! I find it interesting that this TAS uses BizHawk instead of FCEUX, as FCEUX has more accurate sound emulation in general, and I am completely blind. I actually enjoyed this run, and I can't wait for a TAS of this on FCEUX!
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Posted: 5/2/2023 3:32 AM
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DJ Incendration wrote:
Nice work! I find it interesting that this TAS uses BizHawk instead of FCEUX, as FCEUX has more accurate sound emulation in general, and I am completely blind. I actually enjoyed this run, and I can't wait for a TAS of this on FCEUX!
The original submission of this TAS used FCEUX but the author was asked to switch to BizHawk for their second go-around due to the NESHawk core's better emulation accuracy with regards to the "rather timing-sensitive behavior" involved in performing this crash. The original TAS can be found here. Anyway, this TAS might not be perfect but it does seem to be a lot better than the previous and I find the idea quite entertaining. Would love to see someone write up an explanation for what causes the crash. Yes vote.
Posted: 5/2/2023 4:09 AM
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The temporary encode is broken.
Posted: 5/2/2023 4:21 AM
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Probably this one: https://youtu.be/g_lf46Edn3M
Posted: 5/2/2023 7:45 AM
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Voting No for obvious sub-optimal play and bad goal choice. To repeat myself from the previous submission, I'm all for an NES Tetris TAS that pushes the game to its limits. but I don't think crashing the game should be the goal in itself. Best theoretical score/lines/level would be much more interesting in my opinion.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 8:41 AM
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Use cheat code 9C89:FF to keep the score rolling. It doesn't desync the TAS. 23 rollovers at 1490 lines with a score of 38131971. The crash is random with a score this high. To achieve all glitch colors, play up to level 191.
Posted: 5/2/2023 3:01 PM
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MarbleousDave wrote:
Use cheat code 9C89:FF to keep the score rolling.
Have you seen #7624: m_riss's NES Tetris "Fastest Crash" in 1:10:26.37?
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Posted: 5/2/2023 6:45 PM
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The temporary encode is broken.
It's fixed now
Posted: 6/6/2023 1:31 PM
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Here is what concerns me.
Playing closer to the top of the screen (within reason of course).
I'm just curious as to why this wasn't done on your remake. In my opinion, this jeopardizes your submission, since previously accepted TASes already do this. I commend you on cutting a ton of time, over your previous work....but this needs to be addressed.
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Posted: 6/7/2023 7:24 PM
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