1 2
Posted: 11/18/2018 4:26 PM
Quote
filpAM
He/Him
Banned User
Joined: 10/24/2018
Posts: 23
Location: earth
Better call it "semi-emulator" to end all the clash
Posted: 11/19/2018 2:39 AM
Quote
TheCoreyBurton
He/Him
Joined: 10/14/2013
Posts: 335
Location: Australia
Instead of coining an entirely new term, can we use "re-recording environment" and then shorten it to "RRE" for general talk? It doesn't have to be that term specifically, but this way it keeps things a bit more straightforward.
I'm not as active as I once was, but I can be reached here if I should be needed.
Posted: 11/19/2018 8:06 AM
Quote
MESHUGGAH
Other
Skilled player (1918)
Joined: 11/14/2009
Posts: 1353
Location: 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝑦𝔞𝔯
NES TASer of 2013 NES TAS of 2013 NES TAS of 2012 NES TAS of 2011
This would be a good suggestion if it wouldn't be shortened. The premise here is that many emulators with rerecording features got the name (for the fork of the project) -RR: MAME-RR, FinalBurnAlpha-RR, JPC-RR, Mupen64-rr, Mednafen-rr. Somewhat feel that extra E a bit unuseful/unnecessary.
PhD in TASing 🎓 speedrun enthusiast ❤🚷🔥 white hat hacker ▓ black box tester ░ censorships and rules...
Posted: 11/19/2018 2:50 PM
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11486
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
Also, "environment" is what emulators are as well, so it doesn't help to answer the main question: If X is not an emulator, than what is it? And I mentioned Wine for a reason: it's an API translation layer just like libTAS, but it's not a rerecording environment.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 11/19/2018 2:55 PM
Quote
Memory
She/Her
Site Admin, Skilled player (1557)
Joined: 3/20/2014
Posts: 1766
Location: Dumpster
GBA TASer of 2020 GBA TAS of 2020 GBA TASer of 2019 Exotic platforms TAS of 2018
I think there is some confusion as to what we even need a term for and what it should cover. Should we care about non-rerecording applications like Wine? Do we need to explicitly exclude emulators?
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
Posted: 11/19/2018 3:05 PM
Quote
feos
Site Admin, Skilled player (1254)
Joined: 4/17/2010
Posts: 11486
Location: Lake Char­gogg­a­gogg­man­chaugg­a­gogg­chau­bun­a­gung­a­maugg
NES TAS of 2011
It was my intention, and I see that some people actually feel that there should just be one term that covers all cases relevant to us (like this "RR environment" idea which I definitely saw before). I just think that everyone is so used to "emulators" and "emus" that "environment" won't help to make it clearer and simpler.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
1 2