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As asked by the community, I submit 4 other Cases of the game.
Nothing changed on the game since my first submission (obviously) so you can read my comment at #6005: ViGadeomes's A2600 Private Eye "Case 5" in 14:53.28
My TAS reaches the same time as Greg Degeneffe and glen sampson's World Records : https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/private-eye/atari-2600-vcs/ntsc-game-1-switchable-difficulty-fastest-completion/page/1?ref=fbshare

Goals

  • BizHawk 2.3.0
  • In-Game Time instead of real time
  • Maximum score without losing time for entertainment

Routing

Map : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JRlAOTRFHLsrDRF1KJkM5-JbEfHLXEHW/view?usp=sharing
Route : Road 1, Bank's money, Road 1, Gun, Road 2, Gunstore, Le Fiend, Road 2, Police.
Total : 56 screens.

Thanks

Greg Degeneffe
Memory: Claiming for judging.
ViGadeomes: Cancelling due to a possible movie that can obsolete it.

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Posted: 7/14/2018 5:50 PM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #6036: ViGadeomes's A2600 Private Eye "Case 1" in 01:55.55
Posted: 7/14/2018 5:52 PM
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Uh... here's a question. Why didn't you just hit reset or continue on from the previous input instead of making several submissions and branching it as "all cases"?
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Posted: 7/14/2018 5:54 PM
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The proper question is, is any of this gameplay already contained in the Case 5 movie? Because it seems to cover all the cases.
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Posted: 7/14/2018 5:55 PM
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Memory said on my previous submission that these Games set could be submitted on separate branches I thought it was the better option but if judge want me to do all 4 cases at once then I'll do it.
Posted: 7/14/2018 5:56 PM
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http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=472319#472319 When one vaultable branch contains gameplay of another vaultable branch, there's no point in having both. Precedent: #5854: ThunderAxe31's GBC Toki Tori in 42:20.21
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Posted: 7/14/2018 5:59 PM
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feos wrote:
The proper question is, is any of this gameplay already contained in the Case 5 movie? Because it seems to cover all the cases.
Maps are different for 3 first cases but the 5th has a little bit of the 4rd case. Before submitting Case 5, I thought it could be better to submit case 5 and the case which has the best TAS time but I wasn't sure so I just submitted Case 5 to see what people want and What I can do...
Posted: 7/14/2018 7:21 PM
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then, Do I cancel them all ?
Posted: 7/14/2018 7:24 PM
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"Then"? If their gameplay is unique compared to Case 5, they can still be published separately. Checking how different it is will need to be done for each of the 4 cases.
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Posted: 7/14/2018 7:54 PM
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feos wrote:
"Then"? If their gameplay is unique compared to Case 5, they can still be published separately. Checking how different it is will need to be done for each of the 4 cases.
Sorry for the "then" (my english is not perfect). Ok, so I let them. Sorry for the extra-work of the judge in advance.
Posted: 7/15/2018 5:06 PM
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Can you combine all the cases into a single movie/submission? It would be preferred.
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Posted: 7/15/2018 5:13 PM
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Yes please.
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Posted: 7/15/2018 6:32 PM
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I think I can do it but I need your help : When can we consider a case as finished ? End of the music after the end of the case ? Do I let the Police screen for one frame ? ... Do I combine case 5 with others ?
Posted: 7/15/2018 6:39 PM
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Just to point out why we're suggesting this: http://tasvideos.org/MovieRules.html#GamesWithAdditionalLevelSetsOrGames "Playing a single episode or individual game to completion, or all episodes or games, is considered game completion." http://tasvideos.org/MovieRules.html#ObsoletingAPublishedMovie "Movies for all games or episodes inside a multi-game or multi-episode game can obsolete individual movies that only play a single game or episode within the game. This is assuming that the combined movie surpasses all the individual movies that it is trying to obsolete." The manual makes case 5 stand out as the only case that puts an end to the crimes this bad guy does, which is why I considered it full completion for this game, but since its gameplay is different from the other 4 cases, having all 5 in one movie is the best option.
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Posted: 7/15/2018 6:46 PM
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Sorry because it's the second time I tried to ask it and I think you don't understand what I mean : When do I consider a case finished to press the reset button to prepare with the select button and begin the next case?
Posted: 7/15/2018 6:49 PM
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I wasn't answering that question, just clarified our reasons.
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Posted: 7/15/2018 6:57 PM
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feos wrote:
I wasn't answering that question, just clarified our reasons.
Ok sorry.
Posted: 7/16/2018 3:07 PM
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