Post subject: Console resources (platform specific tricks)
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Update: Wiki: PlatformResources, linking from Wiki: TasingGuide and Wiki: GameResources. I made two drafts about listing platform specific tricks that applies to most games per console, listing all the informations that might be useful for your next TAS. Think about it as a (not-so) FAQ of TASing on <platform> console. Project goals: (edited) - OK - Newbie friendly (easy to understand without expert knowledge) - OK - Elaborate informations for advanced TASers - OK - Notes should be written as advices rather than instructions to avoid discouraging the reader experimenting stuffs but ensure him/her these things are tested/verified. no need: - Will include links to known resources (maps, scripts, forum wishlist, etc) depending on final place (one stop - all infos. Part of new game navigation - only missing infos) - "OK" - Will need some typo and grammar fixes not by me once finished - game dependent values might come in handy for some future automation projects - OK - will include current major bugs as a warning Project plans: - finish coleco (draft) - continue with other platforms wswan (NES in future) - ask Mothrayas or someone high order to find a place for this - ask bizhawk devs to maybe add them to their own core related pages (as these guides uses bizhawk's cores)
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I feel you need a global page for these, with all the notes that apply to all the consoles. And then those specific pages with only specific notes. If we limit them to tasing tips, they may go to tasing guide/consoles.
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feos wrote:
I feel you need a global page for these, with all the notes that apply to all the consoles. And then those specific pages with only specific notes.
This sounds more like a "list of techniques that are non platform dependent", which I'm not doing right now.
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If we limit them to tasing tips, they may go to tasing guide/consoles.
I would like to limit it to TASing tips, and I think it would fit there nicely. Introduction part of Wiki: WelcomeToTasvideos links to game resources and Wiki: TasingGuide so new comers could find it "easily". My first idea was to put in the Wiki: GameResources' page platform names linking to these, but it wouldn't be that descriptive (the reader wouldn't expect a list of tricks by clicking on a platform's name). It would be nice if this could be added to the "new" game based navigation without distracting the viewer (that is, the link should only appear once for example at the description?).
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Status update. + Already have 4 platforms covered all using BizHawk cores + They are mostly polished and covered well Now the question: Where could these be located on the site to help new and experienced TASers to learn for specific cores? My suggestions: pages of BizHawk/Core, like A7800 could be linked at least from Wiki: Bizhawk/Atari7800 and http://tasvideos.org/Platforms.html#Atari7800 So I'm looking for feedback about this before editing those sacred pages.
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Thanks feos. However I think it would also still fit on other sites aswell. - Wiki: PlatformResources only refered from TasingGuide, 4780 page hits, compared to Wiki: GameResources 75731 page hits. - Especially the Vboy one, these pages contains many game related informations, so I would see no problem in mentioning somewhere on Wiki: GameResources.
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Where do I say linking it elsewhere is banned?
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