Post subject: Have you guys been bullying people?
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Have you guys been bullying people? because everytime I try to access the front page a message from Google pops out saying that this website has been bullying people.
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If the problem is not fixed within 30 days all content associated with this site will be deleted.
What? They can do that?
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If the problem is not fixed within 30 days all content associated with this site will be deleted.
What? They can do that?
I wouldn't worry about that, we have backups and there's other hosting services that we can use out there. As is, we only use Google for certain small pieces of what we do. But hopefully it won't come to it. We've had various strikes on TASVideosChannel in the past, and after complaining about it, the strikes came off after a couple of days. It's still annoying though that we have videos on TVC blocked in Germany, or have our stuff removed from search results because of random complaints that no one verifies.
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Considering it's April 1st in some places, I wouldn't be surprised if this is Google's idea of a joke. Edit: Upon seeing the error, I thought that perhaps it may have been an poor-taste April Fools joke by Google. On a proper review of the information, it looks like this is indeed serious.
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Post subject: Re: Have you guys been bullying people?
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AppearFromBacon61 wrote:
Have you guys been bullying people? because everytime I try to access the front page a message from Google pops out saying that this website has been bullying people.
Yes I've been bullying people. They now want to get revenge by turning us all into cheese. Quick pull rabbits out of your poop generators before it's too late.
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thecoreyburton wrote:
Considering it's April 1st in some places, I wouldn't be surprised if this is Google's idea of a joke.
Google censorship unfortunately is not a joke. It's getting worse as of late. It's also not just Google. See feos' thread about EU and GitHub.
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thecoreyburton wrote:
Considering it's April 1st in some places, I wouldn't be surprised if this is Google's idea of a joke.
It's certainly someone's idea of a joke. ;) It's not me!
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thecoreyburton wrote:
Considering it's April 1st in some places, I wouldn't be surprised if this is Google's idea of a joke.
It's certainly someone's idea of a joke. ;) It's not me!
When I first was this i though it was a joke as well, must be those kids who are swating twitch players! They have no life and are creating problems everywhere they go, lets hope this get fixed quickly!
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Well, it was fun to be part of this site. Hopefully in 30 days the IRC channel will still be up so I can at least hang out there from time to time...
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What does Google have against bullies? They are cute.
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What is "HTTP 500" section on the front page?
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^ I've reported it too, according to Nach it's not part of april fools but a bug. They can't reproduce it either. edit: for future researches, HTTP 500 bug webpage: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jz0KVjG3Lou0zWCLgBE80qGWcqu79W4I (I tried to check it with devtools. Only happened once while debugging, nothing extra happened on my side)
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HTTP errors are real things. Regarding an HTTP 500 tab I'm not familiar with it, but it doesn't mean that Bisqwit didn't leave me an Easter Egg in the source. Today of all days to have Easter Eggs...
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For those that have forgotten this, please don't.
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Does anyone know if the alleged reporter in the HTTP 451 error message is a bot or a human? Because if it's the latter, it would seem that anybody could shut down the website for no reason and at any time without much consequences.
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The ListOfIdea SNES page - "allegedly infringing" japanese copyrighted adult movies owned by Adult Source Media. Sent on January 24, 2017. I can't judge with all the informations removed, but it looks the process was started manually and then the URLs were added one by one (literally someone searched on google and reported each link) The 2 other page - "allegedly infringing" two major adult webcam site. Sent on September 20, 2017. Pretty sure this one is automated. The URL's are appended with ", one of the webpage is scraped and hundreds of performers' full link reported. The two claims seems to be different source. Copyright strikes are like this, easy to deliver, hard to recover. edit: I tried a few links, but none of them has 451 error on the front page.
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SmashManiac wrote:
Does anyone know if the alleged reporter in the HTTP 451 error message is a bot or a human? Because if it's the latter, it would seem that anybody could shut down the website for no reason and at any time without much consequences.
That's exactly what goes on today, see the links I put in my first post in this thread.
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edit: I tried a few links, but none of them has 451 error on the front page.
DMCA and reports about bullying are not related. Being unlisted from Google search won't affect your actual site hosting unless you're using a Google service for stuff such as YouTube or hosting tools.
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I think I understand what you wrote (DMCA reporting doesn't have these categories), but the "Please note that a copy of each legal notice we receive may be sent to the Lumen project" is there whatever I want to report. I could fill in a cyberbully report of wide range of google products with a newly created google account, of course I didn't sent it. So it's dead easy unfortunately. edit: my professional countdown until 00:00 april 30th https://bit.ly/2pZg343 is obsolete :)
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As one example, if you're watching a YouTube video on YouTube, there's a menu on the right side under a video where you can report a problem with it. A few people can invent a problem with your video and your video will be taken down long before any actual human from Google's side reviews it. Even when a human from Google's side reviews it, you then also have a problem of potential bias in some cases. So yes, it's dead easy to get something removed from any Google hosting service as well as others. Has everyone suddenly forgotten about this thread?
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Nach wrote:
SmashManiac wrote:
Does anyone know if the alleged reporter in the HTTP 451 error message is a bot or a human? Because if it's the latter, it would seem that anybody could shut down the website for no reason and at any time without much consequences.
That's exactly what goes on today, see the links I put in my first post in this thread.
I fail to see how that answers my question. What I was wondering about is whether the alleged reporter is a bot (such as the one described in one of your links) or a human (as the error message suggests) in this very specific case.
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There's really no way to know if AI or a malicious/defective human is behind a complaint. It could also be a combination of the two.
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This particular problem has been dealt with. However the underlying problem is still a problem. MESHUGGAH, the countdown is unnecessary. We're not going to allow Google to block our website, even if they remove us from search results and take down our videos from YouTube. (Of course we'll fight those too when we can)
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