Posted: 6/18/2016 9:26 PM
Post subject: Comparing PCSX and Otoshock Times
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So I am currently making an improved TAS of Abe's Exoddus and I need some advice on the best way to compare the PCSX and my new time. I finished the run today on Bizhawk and both emulators show the same in game time on the save file 00:40. At one point I was one second in game faster on my movie when I was in the last Zulag of Hub 1. My current movie time is 59:40 and the PCSX time is 53:41. I understand that Bizhawk is much accurate to PCSX. I need a way to check against PCSX times.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 9:48 PM
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You don't need to compare those, just compare times spent in each room, as in, actual gameplay time.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 9:49 PM
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... Sans lag frames.
Posted: 6/19/2016 1:56 AM
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Warepire wrote:
... Sans lag frames.
^ Just subtract lag frames from total frames and there you go.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:24 PM
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You can use a RAM address that contains a frame counter for in-game time. Most games that have an ingame time have an appropriate frame counter for that. In your particular case, Spikestuff found the address for you. Check the value of this RAM address at the end of every stage or at the end of the game in both the old run and in your new run, note down the results and compare. Make sure to note the frame count on regular intervals (such as between every stage at a minimum) to make sure you don't lose time in any stage.
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Posted: 7/9/2016 9:42 AM
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Why on earth is this even in labs?
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