I dunno, the slow loading times are part of the package.

And why is this considered to be an issue? When something similar which is the PS1 BizHawk core Octoshock, which has long loading times (as it too is going for accuracy).

One day, whenever PS3/Xbox360 emulation matures (eventually), there might need a rule allowing multiple console variations, if only because stuff like RNG and timing changes quite a bit between console loads. But uh...banning all sports games from vault even if it's not tied to a (fixed) timer seems kind of extreme. I can't argue against the trivial point however, since I never played this.

After reading all of the posts and reviewing the Vault requirements, I believe I understand why this submission was rejected. It seems that all non-serious game choices are automatically rejected unless there's serious entertainment value. There's nothing wrong with that. The problem that I have is that in the very first two lines of requirements for Vault submissions says that the purpose of this category is to focus on collecting tool-assisted speedrun records. I'll even quote the bullet point in the Overview section which is right below it "Its purpose is to fulfill the site's goal of being a TAS records site, and a central repository of tool-assisted literature and information." This statement alone should mean that we accept EVERY submission of an actual published game. This is assuming that it follows the rest of TASVideo's rules. Since there are some games that won't be allowed on this site, even in the Vault tier, then the goal of becoming a full TAS repository will never be accomplished. It seems like eventually there will need to be one of two changes. The first would be to simply change exactly what the Vault category is trying to accomplish (i.e. games with slight entertainment value that can potentially be optimized to be beaten faster). The second option, and the one that I feel would work best in the long run is to create a fourth tier of games (Basement Tier or something). This tier would be a repository for every game that doesn't make the cut for Vault with absolutely zero regard for entertainment value. This would also be a nightmare for the awesome publication team on this site, so I also propose that no encodes need to be made for these submissions (if the creator wants to add a temp encode to the submission text, then kudos to them). As long as they sync, then they're in. Creating a fourth tier would make this site's stated goal be much more realistic.

The second option, and the one that I feel would work best in the long run is to create a fourth tier of games

This has been proposed for years. At one point it even went like 90% through in ideas and acceptance. But it wasn't implemented for various reasons.

Too be honest, I'm a little disappointed this was rejected. I found the abuse of the physics engine to get hole-in-ones was clever and decently entertaining. Some of the shots were actually pretty crazy too if you watch the run again. I don't know, maybe I'm just a sucker for physics based games. :P (I also really like mini-golf...) I'd like for this to be published but I understand the decision against it. EDIT: I saw Samsara's post on the video about possibly re-judging this! I hope this TAS can get accepted!

There are other published (mini)golf or pool runs on the site, so i wondered at first. Some are more interesting i agree, this one http://tasvideos.org/2730M.html probably isn't. I guess if the Gummy Bears had faster load times, the run would really benefit.

Since that mini-golf TAS was published and is in vault, I don't see why any mini-golf that plays all levels (which makes it a speedrun) that is optimized should be rejected. I don't see any difference in overall goal between this TAS and the published mini-golf TAS. I think that even despite the load screens, this TAS is more interesting.

If you take a look at the submission itself, Krazy Ace was actually initially accepted to Moons. The submission voting was actually quite positive as well, good enough audience reception for Moons in my opinion. I'm not entirely sure why it got pushed down to Vault, there's nothing that really explains why except for a couple comments at the end of the submission thread that just say it happened. As was stated earlier, it's highly likely that I'll be taking a second look at this under a new set of rules currently being discussed, so everyone can rest easy and feel accomplished over defending the artistic merit of a game where a soft, chewy candy comes alive and decides that the best use of its waking hours is to play a rousing round of miniature golf.

If you take a look at the submission itself, Krazy Ace was actually initially accepted to Moons. The submission voting was actually quite positive as well, good enough audience reception for Moons in my opinion. I'm not entirely sure why it got pushed down to Vault, there's nothing that really explains why except for a couple comments at the end of the submission thread that just say it happened.

It was initially accepted to Moons, and later on was (mistakenly) demoted to Vault due to poor entertainment ratings.

The Gummy Bears are FREE!

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