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LOL I can't believe there's still people who force TASers to use Biz. If someone personally prefers mupen then it just means we're doing m64 conversion to bk2 in the end. There's nopoint whatsoever on TASing with Biz if you prefer mupen. Stop with your Biz bullshit already.
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Plush wrote:
LOL I can't believe there's still people who force TASers to use Biz. If someone personally prefers mupen then it just means we're doing m64 conversion to bk2 in the end. There's nopoint whatsoever on TASing with Biz if you prefer mupen. Stop with your Biz bullshit already.
This works for SM64, but I'm pretty sure it didn't work for the Zelda games, or most other games. And there's still the fact that Mupen causes enough desyncs that making a 100% OoT run is apparently impossible in Mupen, and yet the TASers prefer to splice runs instead, which means the TASes technically are not even valid. I mean, they choose to do that, and I'm fine with that, but we just think that is an extremely silly and/or counterproductive thing to do.
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Mothrayas wrote:
Plush wrote:
LOL I can't believe there's still people who force TASers to use Biz. If someone personally prefers mupen then it just means we're doing m64 conversion to bk2 in the end. There's nopoint whatsoever on TASing with Biz if you prefer mupen. Stop with your Biz bullshit already.
This works for SM64, but I'm pretty sure it didn't work for the Zelda games, or most other games. And there's still the fact that Mupen causes enough desyncs that making a 100% OoT run is apparently impossible in Mupen, and yet the TASers prefer to splice runs instead, which means the TASes technically are not even valid. I mean, they choose to do that, and I'm fine with that, but we just think that is an extremely silly and/or counterproductive thing to do.
I was referring to a more general case, since I see people telling to use Biz for almost every N64 game, even when not necessary. Zelda doesn't work on mupen so it HAS to be done on Biz though, I completely agree with this.
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I see your point. Though even if some people still prefer using Mupen, and if their SM64 movies can be converted to BizHawk anyway, Mupen is still a horrible and deprecated emulator. It is highly recommended for everyone to move over to BizHawk anyway at some point. If there is any feature Mupen has or fault BizHawk has, I'm sure the developers of the latter would love to know about it so they can fix it for any possible Mupen switchers.
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Mothrayas wrote:
I see your point. Though even if some people still prefer using Mupen, and if their SM64 movies can be converted to BizHawk anyway, Mupen is still a horrible and deprecated emulator. It is highly recommended for everyone to move over to BizHawk anyway at some point. If there is any feature Mupen has or fault BizHawk has, I'm sure the developers of the latter would love to know about it so they can fix it for any possible Mupen switchers.
As I already said many times. one big flaw of Biz is that it runs slow on trash PCs, while mupen is way more versatile and quick. EDIT: Also, last time I checked, Biz couldn't run many different plugins, which just sucks.
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Plush wrote:
EDIT: Also, last time I checked, Biz couldn't run many different plugins, which just sucks.
Ahha. You got the 3 encoder ones and the TASing one.
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Spikestuff wrote:
Plush wrote:
EDIT: Also, last time I checked, Biz couldn't run many different plugins, which just sucks.
Ahha. You got the 3 encoder ones and the TASing one.
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
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Plush wrote:
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
You think Mupen is good? lololo
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Plush wrote:
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
Technically 5, in the future GlideN is in. Also, you haven't created a point on why you need more than 5 plugins for N64. and Mupen64 > BizHawk64 is quite hysterical. 'cause BizHawk is using the Mupen64 Plus core which has been proven to be "capable of accurately playing many games".
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Samsara wrote:
Plush wrote:
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
You think Mupen is good? lololo
no
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Spikestuff wrote:
Plush wrote:
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
Technically 5, in the future GlideN is in. Also, you haven't created a point on why you need more than 5 plugins for N64. and Mupen64 > BizHawk64 is quite hysterical. 'cause BizHawk is using the Mupen64 Plus core which has been proven to be "capable of accurately playing many games".
Mupen64 =/= Mupen64 Plus EDIT: nvm, read that wrong lol, but yeah again, it's not too hard to understand, mupen64 has more plugin compatibility and lags way less on bad PCs. If you have a bad PC, you should be wise enough to choose mupen64 over Biz on the games that allow both emulators.
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Plush wrote:
If you have a bad PC, you should be wise enough to choose mupen64 over Biz on the games that allow both emulators.
Haha, good one. You could make it big in the comedy scene with jokes like that.
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Plush wrote:
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
What do you need more than 4 video plugins for?
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Samsara wrote:
Plush wrote:
If you have a bad PC, you should be wise enough to choose mupen64 over Biz on the games that allow both emulators.
Haha, good one. You could make it big in the comedy scene with jokes like that.
I won't bother answering if you keep shitposting lol
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Plush wrote:
You think 4 plugins is good? lololo
What do you need more than 4 video plugins for?
Many people use Direct64 for encoding, including me and sonicpacker.
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Plush wrote:
I won't bother answering if you keep shitposting lol
Yo if I'd been following that logic I don't think I ever would've answered any of your posts since you joined the forums.
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Plush wrote:
Many people use Direct64 for encoding
Please tell me you're joking 'cause that's the biggest bullshit thing I have ever heard. Direct64 really? Really? Direct64 cannot even do fog emulation correctly. You know what can? Those 4 different plugins in BizHawk right now. You're just being silly now. Also please. Citation is required.
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Samsara wrote:
Plush wrote:
I won't bother answering if you keep shitposting lol
Yo if I'd been following that logic I don't think I ever would've answered any of your posts since you joined the forums.
At least I've been explaining my stuff. You've been keeping it vague the whole time, not even caring about what I have to say. How close-minded can someone be?
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Spikestuff wrote:
Plush wrote:
Many people use Direct64 for encoding
Please tell me you're joking 'cause that's the biggest bullshit thing I have ever heard. Direct64 really? Really? Direct64 cannot even do fog emulation correctly. You know what can? Those 4 different plugins in BizHawk right now. You're just being silly now. Also please. Citation is required.
Fog is disgusting in SM64 lol
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This thread is on the verge of being closed if this keeps up. Just saying.
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