Tekken 3: With a Vengeance - Spikestuff
Hello, a gift from Vietnam again :D - N?K

The Stuff:

  • Bios: SCPH1000 (NTSC-J bios)
  • Hardest Difficulty
  • Goes for in-game time
  • Goes for speed instead of entertainment aka going for Vault
  • lua used + created
  • Heavy Luck manipulation

Placed as Frame times:

ChallengerRound 1Round 2Total Time
Paul484795
Law5950109
Xiaoyu5556111
King5653109
Hwoarang5647103
Nina5656112
Jin6664130
Eddy6057117
Heihachi7471145
Ogre4767114
Total5775681145

Spikestuff's Comments:

Menu navigation is optimized fully also selecting the character which involves holding down the Start button for 2 frames after selecting the character.
Well once more Yoshimitsu is used, I assumed before the start that Yoshimitsu has the quickest kill... which is apparently true.
I also assumed he was the easiest one to manipulate each round. Which is also true.
The future fights can all be manipulated during the harakiri of Yoshimitsu and the advantage to Tekken 2 is that you can not have any frames before needing the important frame to do a harakiri.
This is known as ghosting the inputs to creating the RNG if I'm wrong at stating this Cooljay will have the answer
Read N?K's comments on Manipulation, I actually cannot explain that at all and N?K actually simplifies it to a point After fixed by me a bit (I tried) .

N?K's Comments:

About luck manipulation, I found 2 main cores for control luck.
  • Attack time
  • Location my character standing

Lucky for what? Just 2 things
  • Can hit enemy
  • Enemy will get high damage more than (maybe by counter attack)

How can I tell? Lucky are things hard to say. I tried many ways for find lucky. I have to target enemy actions, if its actions change, then it's control lucky.
First: I try not move. Then make same attack on each frame. Oh yes! Enemy actions changed. I found a core.
Next, I'll remember the frame. What actions enemy did after I make attack. Then I try and move, change where I'm standing and at each frame I have to remember to make the same attack.
Oh good, I found 2nd core :D
But the important core at Spikestuff, he found Yoshimitsu can do 1 hit 1 kill.
This run make me think to Onepunch-Man manga, the main character can do 1 hit 1 kill :D

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We are both voting Meh

feos: Judging!!
feos: This time, domination of posts about how good this movie is, was quite clear. 9-ish over 3-ish. Votes are about the same (68% support). Accepting to Moons.
feos: Publishing then...


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we have room for both speed and entertainment on this site and i'm glad the vault exists to save the highly technical runs.
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Somehow even more boring than the Tekken 2 TAS.
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Honestly I know it's going for vault but it was so short I found it entertaining regardless. I enjoyed the little changes in movement you had to use in later fights to ensure the kill. Yes vote.
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O_O Woooooooow, that, that is a moon... Um, thank you guys for voting for something the moon... that was completely unexpected. This is the first TAS that focused on speed only and not entertainment and managed to get Moon is that correct (for fighters)? Just... wow.
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wow wow, maybe Spikestuff have too handsome.... :D
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Voted no, it's not that technically impressive to manipulate Yoshimitsu's suicide attack to land every round. Plus it's repetitive, even for 2 minutes.
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I don't see how anyone could be entertained by this. Unless you know the game...?
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Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
Post subject: Movie published
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2556] PSX Tekken 3 by NhatNM & Spikestuff in 02:15.15
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Respectfully, I am curious why this was selected for Moons. It seems like a perfect choice for the Vault. I'd like to hear why it was viewed to be suitable for a different tier.
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OmegaPaladin wrote:
Respectfully, I am curious why this was selected for Moons. It seems like a perfect choice for the Vault. I'd like to hear why it was viewed to be suitable for a different tier.
I liked it, that's reason enough. ;)
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OmegaPaladin wrote:
Respectfully, I am curious why this was selected for Moons. It seems like a perfect choice for the Vault. I'd like to hear why it was viewed to be suitable for a different tier.
Ikr? Currently it has a rating of 3.8 as voted by 4 different people. Also despite 60% voted yes, I fail to see how this is much better than the prequel movie.
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Currently it has an entertainment rating of 3. Even with the mildly positive voting response, I pretty much saw this coming.
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Mothrayas wrote:
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Currently it has an entertainment rating of 3. Even with the mildly positive voting response, I pretty much saw this coming.
Ditto, I swear the votes for Yes are votes for Vaults sometimes.
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People requesting to revisit the tier decision (along with terrible ratings) is a reason to move things to Vault to me.
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oh oh.... Calm down and watch Disney's Frozen please :D
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feos wrote:
People requesting to revisit the tier decision (along with terrible ratings) is a reason to move things to Vault to me.
AH THANK YOU. N?K AND I ORIGINALLY WANTED THIS... Also can someone explaining the mirroring of Tekken 2 and 3 to me. also to whoever did the text field. N?K as user wouldn't work due to it breaking the url with the questionmark and all...
xxNKxx wrote:
Calm down and watch Disney's Frozen please :D
LET IT GO. LET IT GO... wait we don't want it to be rejected N?K! WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT :3
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Why are people acting like this TAS being in the Moon tier would be a great injustice and insult that must be corrected as soon as humanly possible? I'm pretty sure I could find several Mooned TASes that I find ten times more boring than this.
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Warp wrote:
Why are people acting like this TAS being in the Moon tier would be a great injustice and insult that must be corrected as soon as humanly possible? I'm pretty sure I could find several Mooned TASes that I find ten times more boring than this.
As it goes, I was mostly surprised that it was made a Moon vs. Vault, and I wanted to see why the choice was made. Vault runs aren't BAD, they just have different goal choices. I was really happy to see the run of Air Fortress get published to the vault. Also, the repetitive Bushido Blade slah mode run was oddly hypnotic.
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Spikestuff wrote:
also to whoever did the text field. N?K as user wouldn't work due to it breaking the url with the questionmark and all...
Where would his homepage be created if he were to be given one? Once we know that, we can start linking there. For example: [[user:NK]|N?K]
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Thanks CoolKirby but I don't know how create homepage on TAS site :D My real homepage dead longtime ago, no time for manage :D : http://cs4vn.no-ip.org/
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xxNKxx wrote:
Thanks CoolKirby but I don't know how create homepage on TAS site :D
You don't have a homepage yet....
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