Posted: 5/4/2004 8:04 PM
Post subject: Trojan
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Walker_Boh
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Anyone remember this game? I do ;P It was a very hard game when I was a kiddie. Anyways, I tried to do a time attack of it and it wasn´t that hard. Anyways, my ROM (as always) is kinda shit. So there are some graphic bugs in some levels. However, this doesn´t affect my running more then it looks kinda miserably. So, is it my ROM yet again that fails or is it all ROMs? And if it´s my ROM only would it be an idea of making a time attack of this game?
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Posted: 5/4/2004 8:12 PM
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Making a perfect time attack of trojan would require soo many (5 digits) rerecordings if I did it. It is really hard to do perfect and very random. A good time attack of it would impress me much.
Posted: 5/4/2004 8:26 PM
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I can do a pretty good one tonight. But this graphic bug.. Would it be in all versions? I mean if I send it to Bisqwit, would he see these graphic errors?
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Posted: 5/4/2004 9:19 PM
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Most probably. You are using the same emulator and the same version, after all.
Posted: 5/4/2004 9:26 PM
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Yeah =/ Well.. Since it´s a pretty short game Ill give it a try anyways. If it fails in bisqwits hands then it does´t matter that much.
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Posted: 5/4/2004 10:32 PM
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My time attack is done. Dunno whether this graphical issue will be a problem. Hope not =) The time was 07:40 and I think that´s almost the fastest possible anyone can make.
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Posted: 5/5/2004 8:50 PM
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WalkerBoh wrote:
I can do a pretty good one tonight. But this graphic bug.. Would it be in all versions? I mean if I send it to Bisqwit, would he see these graphic errors?
Have you tried using another version of the ROM? Perhaps the Japanese version does not contain this "bug."
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Posted: 5/5/2004 8:52 PM
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Nope, and I don´t know where to find one =/ Dunno if I want to know either.
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Posted: 5/8/2004 2:29 AM
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Watched the run. I enjoyed it. I see what you mean by "graphic bug."
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Posted: 5/8/2004 11:00 AM
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Yeah, but with a proper rom it could be solved. I think that´s a cool game actually. Kinda simple but cool.
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Posted: 5/8/2004 4:01 PM
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Posted: 5/8/2004 4:22 PM
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i believe linking to rom sites is not allowed.
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Posted: 5/8/2004 4:34 PM
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[quote="cat"]Making a perfect time attack of trojan would require soo many (5 digits) rerecordings if I did it. It is really hard to do perfect and very random. A good time attack of it would impress me much.[/quote] So what did you think of it? Any suggestions for a better run or something?
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Posted: 5/8/2004 4:45 PM
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but are roms not just illegal if you keep them for over 24h?
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Posted: 5/8/2004 4:48 PM
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All disclaimers says that you have to own the real cartridge if you want´s to download any roms. Atleast that´s my experience, however im not sure if this is a real "law" or if it´s made up by some ROM-dude out there to make it sound ok. Unfortunately I think they are illegal.
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Posted: 5/8/2004 4:55 PM
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hmm, could someone see the exact laws for roms and such, if the 24h is the _real_ law, if the site i posted was illegal i'm sorry, just wanted to help the cause =)
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Posted: 5/8/2004 5:07 PM
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Posted: 5/23/2019 8:12 PM
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Hi, folks! I have found a pretty nice glitch that allows Trojan to keep his sword still; quite difficult to explain what I mean, so it is better to see the video. Basically, I believe this bug can be a potential time saver, because the enemy is hit immediately after it touches the sword, rather than swinging his sword, for each hit; you loose frames by doing that, yes? Now, unfortunately it seems that this glitched out attack only works on enemies/bosses in the right screen, but I'm happy anyway, lol. I had to figure out forsome time how I manage to pull the glich of, but as soon as I found out how I did it, I wrote it down: by pressing up + down + left + (A) he does this "attack"; These keys or buttons (if you use a game pad) must be pressed all the time, in order for Trojan to keep his position. I set up this "move" so it's on one key (in my case the "Y" key) then I use the auto hold function in the emulator. Phew! Long post; much info. If you have any questions, please ask me things. Have a nice day. http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/55419804460793269 Moderator edit: I moved your posts here. Please use the main game thread for discussing new research. — moozooh
Posted: 5/24/2019 1:01 PM
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Thanks Diman, will check out this weekend. In order to save time in this game, even 1 frame is enough because the subpixel positions can be refined and some levels (mostly before a boss) has 1-2 frame delay (pause un pause mostly) to influence bosses. Will update this post.
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Posted: 5/25/2019 3:50 PM
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My pleasure! 'have finally learned to use TAS-studio. That's a huge happy pill!! Now, I can take TASing to the next level; for instance.... That darn armadillo boss; had problems with him for a long time, how one could make him "un-roll" on each side every time. Anyway, I didn't redo the entire vid; merely re-recorded about half of the game. Until next post! :) http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/55460359165630187