This topic is for the purpose of discussing #328: Zurreco's SNES Kirby Super Star in 51:02.10

It's been a long time since Ive played this game, but I know that there's a lot that it can be improved in this great video: First, on Spring Breeze, the 2nd Boss fight (lololo & lalala) you can get the Crash ability on a room before, which kills the bosses ASAP, dunno if creating a parter & then getting back the Cut ability is slower, but I doubt it. Then, on the Gourmet Race IIRC, you can skip it & it doesn't matter because you're not aiming for the 100% of the game. Now even if you want to pass it, you can cut some seconds in each track, here are some snaps of my records (though they are not played on the Grand Prix...): As you can see, wing power can give you a better time by a considerable margin... Next, on Dinablade, IIRC getting the candy speeds you up & in the video he doesn't grab it, in the scene where you fight Chef Kawasaki, on the 1st stage; also IIRC if you grab the Crash ability you can kill him faster, but it may slow you down when you create a parter, (have to check if it helps or not). Then on the 2nd stage, you can get the all mighty Wheelie Rider, the most powerful permanent power BUT you need to play with 2 players in order to shoot those powerful stars, this will save you lots of time on further bosses, even on Dinablade... Now, on The Revenge of Metanight, when you fight the 2 Whispy Woods at the same time, I think that you can also cut some time if you use the ability that rise kirby with the Yo-Yo (forgot how's it called), because you can hit both trees at the same time... Then on the stage that he can get the Wheel ability, he can use again the Wheelie Rider ability to kill ASAP further bosses, even the fight with Metanight can be cutted by a huge time... At The Great Cave Offensive everything is great, I really liked it. And at the Milky Way Wishes, since it takes to long to get the Wheel ability, maybe you could "cheat" & play Halfmoon to get it free on the Computer Virus fight but after you passed Floria & got Cut ability as is on the video, also it might help if you get the Hammer ability on Carvos planet to kill bosses faster. Aside from that, I also think that everything here is great. You don't need to record the ending after Milky Way wishes one, you could then reset the game & it gets saved... Also it would be great to include the Arena... So, in resume, you can improve quite of time if you play with 2 players & skip the Gourmet Race...

Well, I already addressed that crash is inefective against lololo and lalala because it takes a lot longer to kill them with crash than it does with cutter (I tested this 5 different ways). I needed to finish Gourmet Race to help Open up Great Cave Offensive. It is mandatory, unless the rules of this game rewrote in order to screw me over. Also, yeah, Gourmet Race could be improved, but whatever. I've already mentioned that I don't have the patience to make a 2P run for this game. That accounts for why Wheelie Rider isn't shooting. I don't plan to change that. I tested every move against the twin Whispy trees and found that the rising attack does not do enough damage to warrant use. It also causes lag in that fight. Horrid horrid lag. I avoided it at all costs. I tested the Copy ability in Milkyway Wishes after this movie was submitted and found that Copy can't mimick any of the skills that you don't have yet. Also, the side track to get hammer isnt really worth the time, since i would only use it in boss fights and the time it takes to change weapons (cutter to hammer) and then back in the next area tends to undo most time in boss fights. If I could randomize Hammer faster in the RPG fight, that would be optimal. Also, umm, we can't really do arena because the movie time would be much too long (you have to go through Milkyway Wishes credits the first time through, and rules say no using savestates). Plus, Milkyway is considered the final area needed to 'finish' the game. There are a few tiny improvements I could see to this movie. I caught them a few weeks after the movie was published. I am not in the mood to really remake this movie, but if anyone else wants to commit, I have some pointers.

I needed to finish Gourmet Race to help Open up Great Cave Offensive. It is mandatory, unless the rules of this game rewrote in order to screw me over. Also, yeah, Gourmet Race could be improved, but whatever.

Well, at least that's what I remember, maybe I'm wrong but I do remember that you could skip a game that counts towards the % of the game...

I've already mentioned that I don't have the patience to make a 2P run for this game. That accounts for why Wheelie Rider isn't shooting. I don't plan to change that.

Right, it a great video for 1 player, but if someone could manage to control both players, you could cut quite of time...

I tested the Copy ability in Milkyway Wishes after this movie was submitted and found that Copy can't mimic any of the skills that you don't have yet. Also, the side track to get hammer isnt really worth the time, since i would only use it in boss fights and the time it takes to change weapons (cutter to hammer) and then back in the next area tends to undo most time in boss fights. If I could randomize Hammer faster in the RPG fight, that would be optimal.

Mmm, I remember that if you get the Copy ability, you can get any ability... Anyway, if you get the Hammer ability you will be able to damage more, but since you get it almost on the last world, it won't be so effective, BUT maybe if you change the order of the planets you visit, you could manage to cut some time at the end, it's just a though but I think it would help.

Also, umm, we can't really do arena because the movie time would be much too long (you have to go through Milkyway Wishes credits the first time through, and rules say no using savestates). Plus, Milkyway is considered the final area needed to 'finish' the game.

Well, you need to pass the Arena in order to get the 100%, so I say it should be included, plus you can reset the game just after you beat Marx & seen the MWW ending (the short one) & the Arena will be unlocked...

There are a few tiny improvements I could see to this movie. I caught them a few weeks after the movie was published. I am not in the mood to really remake this movie, but if anyone else wants to commit, I have some pointers.

Yea, I know it takes lots of time to get those videos, just hope that someone will be able to make a 2 players video...

Let's put it this way: If the devs for snes9x can somehow make the 2 player netplay to work, samurai goroh is my first pic for a helper.

Let's put it this way: If the devs for snes9x can somehow make the 2 player netplay to work, samurai goroh is my first pic for a helper.

Thanks Zurreco ^.^ , anyhow I made a time of 4'25"20 on The Arena, using both players with the keyboard (and lots of savestates, of course... ) so, it wouldn't be to hard to made a nice video with 1 person, of course it wouldn't be the fastest. Anyway, here's the snap of it: BTW, when I played the arena with my brother, we managed to do little slower than 4 1/2 minutes...