I find what people collectively think to be more interesting than a list of stats or people nominating people for random invented categories.
I agree with this. I think anything directly derived from whatever statistics is just that, and really undiscussable. Who had the most TASes this year? Who had the highest rated TAS total using formula X? Etc..
Here is a list of TASes of 2007, sorted by author.
So I will now write the ideas I had for more "discussable" categories, to try and get the ball rolling. I'm hoping that others come up with more or better categories/nominees than I have so far.
---Movies---Speedy TASes of 2007 - TASes that really look fast:
[802] SNES Biker Mice From Mars (USA) by Baxter in 05:12.62
[886] N64 Wetrix 64 (USA) by Deign in 00:49.72
[919] GBA "Maxim Version" Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance (USA) by Comicalflop in 00:24.3
[969] NES Legacy of the Wizard (USA) by Lord Tom in 13:44.23
[972] SNES Mask, The (USA) by Randil in 06:39.8
Glitchy TASes of 2007 - Runs that are so glitchy, they're confusing to watch:
[813] NES Widget (USA) by CtrlAltDestroy in 05:48.83
[822] GB "warp glitch" Zelda: Link's Awakening (USA/Europe v1.0) by Soulrivers in 04:00.5
[824] NES "glitched" Legend of Zelda 2 (USA) by Inzult in 06:13.08
[826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02
[883] NES A Boy and His Blob (USA) by Aqfaq in 01:57.95
[934] SNES Mortal Kombat II (USA v1.0) by Samhain-Grim in 22:43.68
[941] SGB Pokémon Green (JPN v1.0) by Primorial#soup in 04:24.53
[955] NES "item glitch" Dragon Warrior 3 (USA) by dave_dfwm in 57:28.27
[1036] SNES "100 CDs" Rockman & Forte (JPN) by parrot14green in 42:19.82
Innovative TASes of 2007 - Something new:
[784] NES "4 Player" Nightmare On Elm Street (USA) by chupapi in 16:15.75
[799] GBA Silent Scope (USA) by mmbossman in 05:29.28
[817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02
[848] SNES Super Mario Kart (USA) by Huffers in 23:10.88
[871] NES Mega Man 3, 4, 5 & 6 (USA) by Baxter & AngerFist in 39:06.92
[892] SNES "small only" Super Mario World (USA) by thegreginator & skamastaG in 1:19:55.65
[1013] NES River City Ransom (USA) by adelikat & JXQ in 12:55.38
Lucky TASes of 2007 - TASes with heavy luck manipuation involved:
[766] NES Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! (USA PRG1) by adelikat in 17:50.0
[834] SNES Vegas Stakes (USA) by hero of the day in 03:30.93
[868] NES Legend of Zelda, The (USA PRG0) by Phil & Baxter in 24:04.05
[901] NES Castlevania (USA PRG1) by Phil. Côté & Morrison in 11:20.5
[931] NES Dragon Warrior 3 (USA) by dave_dfwm in 1:50:36.18
[950] SGB Pokémon Blue (USA/Europe) by Primorial#soup in 1:18:58.78
[1004] Genesis Shining Force (USA) by DarkKobold in 2:08:40.07
[1024] GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (USA) by zggzdydp in 12:06.73
Funny TASes of 2007 - Laughing Out Loud ;)
[876] Genesis Splatterhouse 2 (USA) by Aqfaq in 14:15.5
[897] Genesis Altered Beast (Japan/USA,r2) by foda in 05:53.3
[934] SNES Mortal Kombat II (USA v1.0) by Samhain-Grim in 22:43.68
[1013] NES River City Ransom (USA) by adelikat & JXQ in 12:55.38
[1014] NES Journey to Silius (USA) by klmz in 09:32.03
[1026] NES "2-player" Chip 'n Dale - Rescue Rangers (USA) by dragonxyk in 09:29.22
GBx TASes of 2007
[821] GBA Castlevania: Circle Of The Moon (USA) by Cardboard in 21:51.08
[863] GBC Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (USA) by Chef Stef in 1:09:49.93
[947] GBA Kirby & The Amazing Mirror (JPN) by mugg in 26:11.52
[949] GB "any%" Metroid II - Return Of Samus (USA) by Cardboard in 45:08.42
[950] SGB Pokémon Blue (USA/Europe) by Primorial#soup in 1:18:58.78
[981] GBA "100%" Metroid Zero Mission (USA) by Dragonfangs in 1:01:43.7
[995] GBA Castlevania - Harmony of Dissonance (USA) by zggzdydp in 14:04.85
[1024] GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (USA) by zggzdydp in 12:06.73
Genesis TASes of 2007
[826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02
[845] Genesis Vectorman (USA) by mmbossman in 11:41.75
[880] Genesis Dynamite Headdy (USA) by emu in 33:22.82
[945] Genesis Gunstar Heroes (USA) by arkiandruski in 35:28.92
[954] Genesis Comix Zone (USA) by xoinx & XYZ in 09:34.88
[958] Genesis Rocket Knight Adventures (USA) by Upthorn in 27:18.13
N64 TASes of 2007
[850] N64 "120 stars" Super Mario 64 (USA) by Rikku in 1:39:02.13
[963] N64 Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (USA) by Mukki in 2:14:03.08
[975] N64 007 ? The World is Not Enough (USA) by Wyster in 31:29.53
[1007] N64 Goldeneye 007 (USA) by Rising Tempest in 29:58.27
[1017] N64 "0 stars" Super Mario 64 (USA) by Swordless Link & AKA in 05:47.37
NES TASes of 2007
[762] NES "Grant path" Castlevania 3 – Dracula's Curse (JPN) by Samhain-Grim in 28:57.55
[828] NES Ninja Gaiden 2 (USA) by Scumtron in 09:14.32
[830] NES Super C (USA) by Baxter & Adelikat in 12:20.02
[901] NES Castlevania (USA PRG1) by Phil. Côté & Morrison in 11:20.5
[951] NES Darkwing Duck (USA) by AnS & Randil in 10:59.5
[991] NES Bucky O'Hare (USA) by AnS in 22:13.6
[1001] NES "warpless" Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA PRG0) by adelikat & Cardboard in 19:39.93
[1014] NES Journey to Silius (USA) by klmz in 09:32.03
[1022] NES Super Mario Bros (Japan/USA PRG0) by klmz in 04:58.53
SNES TASes of 2007
[793] SNES "any%" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by hero of the day in 40:57.85
[809] SNES Mega Man X2 (USA) by FractalFusion & Graveworm in 31:42.45
[817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02
[848] SNES Super Mario Kart (USA) by Huffers in 23:10.88
[892] SNES "small only" Super Mario World (USA) by thegreginator & skamastaG in 1:19:55.65
[898] SNES "any%" Donkey Kong Country 2 (USA v1.0) by Arnethegreat in 41:49.02
[934] SNES Mortal Kombat II (USA v1.0) by Samhain-Grim in 22:43.68
[1036] SNES "100 CDs" Rockman & Forte (JPN) by parrot14green in 42:19.82
Overall TASes of 2007
(to be decided by winners of individual system TASes)
---Authors---GBx TASers of 2007
Cardboard
Dragonfangs
MUGG
zggzdydp
Genesis TASers of 2007
Aqfaq
emu
mmbossman
nitsuja
Upthorn
N64 TASers of 2007
AKA
Mukki
Rikku
Swordless Link
NES TASers of 2007
adelikat
Baxter
Phil
Randil
xipo
SNES TASers of 2007
arne_the_great
Fractalfusion
hero of the day
JXQ
Parrot14green
Samhain-Grim
Rookie TASers of 2007
Cardboard
Deign
klmz
xipo
zggzdydp
Overall TASers of 2007
adelikat
Baxter
Cardboard
JXQ
Randil
---Other---Best glitch discovery of 2007
NES Super Mario Bros. - Avoiding the flagpole animation
N64 Super Mario 64 - Back-Long-Jumping through the 30-star door
SNES Super Metroid - Escaping Bomb-Torizo battle
SNES Super Mario World 2 - left+right level warp
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Ideally, after some discussion (and after 2007 is over), the desired categories could be made into individual threads with a poll, and then voting could be opened for a period of time.
None of these categories or nominees are final - I'll add any nominee or category ideas here. I'm not too worried about a minimum or maximum number of nominees or categories, so fire away!
Please comment about any aspect of this. I am trying hard to make it something many people will enjoy participating in, rather than just something I like, but I may be doing things wrong. If so, please let me know!
Hopefully this turns out to be fun :)
[Edit by AngerFist: This topic just got Sticky!]
[Edit nr 2 by AngerFist: Now its clean!]
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I would nominate nitsujas Sonic 3 % Knuckles run to Glitchy TASes of 2007. I would also like to see these categories: Best TASer of 2007, Best rookie of 2007 and maybe best runs for each console.
Edit: Alden suggested that we should call this The Tazzie Awards :)
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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JXQ wrote:
Genesis TASes of 2007
[826] Genesis Sonic 3 and Knuckles (any) by Nitsuja in 34:22.02 (gmv,avi)
[845] Genesis Vectorman (USA) by mmbossman in 11:41.75 (gmv,avi)
[945] Genesis Gunstar Heroes (USA) by arkiandruski in 35:28.92 (gmv,avi)
[958] Genesis Rocket Knight Adventures (USA) by Upthorn in 27:18.13 (gmv,avi)
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just isn't the same....
Seriously, to be grouped in with those runs is a total honor. Thanks for just making my night JXQ!
For overall TASes, I think the winner from each catergory could be nominated. Overall TASers should be nominated separately because there are some big ones who don't necessarily shine on a single system.
Also, for the system dependant nominees, could you list their runs on that system. It would make it easier to decide.
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JXQ, your list is beginning to look better and better my man :) By the way, when do you want/think the voting to get started? Before 2008 or after? Maybe its better to do this like in january or february. Also, maybe a final category could be Best TAS of 2007. I was thinking this category would show up after when the voters have voted on which run on each system they considered to be the best and then put the winners on each system in a final poll for the Best TAS of 2007 (Im sorry if that did not make sense, Im so tired these days ^_^). What do you think?
Edit: I am really looking forward to see who wins the best rookie award because all of them are really good! :)
Edit 2: May I suggest adding Fractalfusion, Arne The Great, Samhain-Grim, Parrot14green and yourself for the SNES TASers of 2007.
-''- Rikku to the N64 TASers of 2007.
-''- Nitsuja to the Genesis TASers of 2007.
-''- Phil to the NES TASers of 2007 (his involvement in the zelda and castlevania run made me think of him).
About Overall TASers of 2007, maybe we can do the same as I suggested earlier for Best TAS of 2007? Also, I can offer sticky the voting thread if its needed.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
arkiandruski, I think listing the runs is a good idea, but maybe not on this post..? You can see a list by-author here. I think when the actual voting threads are made, this information should be copied into that initial post for all author categories. I'll add this author-list link to the first post as well.
Angerfist, I'll add those nominations, thanks. I didn't have many ideas for SNES TASer because no one specifically focused on it as much as other systems. hero had the most SNES runs, with 3.
I think voting could start a few days after 2007 ends. I also agree that "overall TAS" could be a "second round" vote that is based on the system-winners of the first round. However, I think arkiandruski made a good point about doing a similar thing for "overall TASer", but I would be okay with either method. Either way, I think the vote for that should be later than the other categories (at the same time as "overall TAS of the year").
Hopefully we're not dominating the discussion here (it's easy to do that when trying to get things started). The other possibility is that a small group is selecting well the view of many. Hopefully that is the case. Or maybe a lot of people haven't seen this thread yet :)
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I nominate Myself, as being the the lazyest TAS'er of 2007. since I have been working on the same room on rockman 3 for like 6 months.
anyway, Best TAS'er of 2007, my vote goes to Adelikat, who added many many tases this year.
If there was a category "greatest glitch discovery" I assume the flag pole glitch in SMB would win that hands down...
Best glitch discovery would make a good catagory since its not the same as glitchest TAS. I think getting past the 30 star door in SM64 would strongly rival your claim.
Does "Best glitch" mean the coolest looking glitch, or the coolest concept?
Looking at the currently listed glitches, I think it's more about the concept, and about what is skipped than about the looks... In this case I would also nominate the SMW2 glitch, which warps to a level that corresponds to the amount of gathered coins.
(I am wondering though, that BLJ through the 30-star door... was that really something new? It looks like using a glitch that was already known at a place where it wasn't used before.)
(I am wondering though, that BLJ through the 30-star door... was that really something new? It looks like using a glitch that was already known at a place where it wasn't used before.)
Could say the same about the SMB flagpole glitch, it's merely a well placed wall jump
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I'd like to nominate JXQ as an overall TASer of 2007.
I think we need a couple more TASes to fill out the Genesis catergory. Maybe Dynamite Headdy or Comix Zone.
I also think that Comix Zone might qualify for a glitchy TAS award.
Thank you for the suggestions.
RT-55J, I did not put yours in since you have not watched it :P
But, speaking of RPG-type games, I do not know them well, and so I have no knowledge as to which ones have more luck manipulation than the others. Pokemon? Final Fantasy? Dragon Warrior? If someone is more familiar and has some input, it would be appreciated. Thanks :)
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Although I haven't actually watched the run, I nominate "[1004] Genesis Shining Force (USA) by DarkKobold in 2:08:40.07" for Lucky TASes category.
I have watched this, and second the nomination -- every hit in the run is a double, critical, or double critical. Also, no damage is ever sustaned by any character except ones whose death is necessary for enhanced speed.
How fleeting are all human passions compared with the massive continuity of ducks.
One I'd like to suggest for "Lucky TAS" is...
[766] NES Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! (USA PRG1) by adelikat in 17:50.0 (fcm,avi)
I've had this game, and played it for several years. And guess what? I STILL have not beat it. I was frustrated to see knockouts instantly, and from what I read on the authour's comments, it took a hell of a lot of Luck manipulation, and I'm not surprised either. Considering I've been trying to beat it (on and off) for 2 YEARS!, I wouldn't be surprised at how much work was involved in this. Therefore, I believe this should be a candidate for "Lucky TAS"
For Funny TAS, I suggest...
NES "2-player" Chip 'n Dale - Rescue Rangers (USA) by dragonxyk in 09:29.22 (fcm,avi)
This run cracked me up the whole way through. All of the end of level mini game scenes cracked me up, specifically the one where Chip & Dale throw the boxes at each other and keep catching them, until they finally both get hit by the boxes at the same time. The poses when the screen freezes at the end of a boss were all funny too. Another thing I found hilarious was how casually dragoxyk killed Chip and Dale, and the way they look so happy when they purposely jump down a pit and kill themselves. Another thing I found funny was how horribly he abused the balloons, often in funny ways, specifically in the level where you have to climb up a long vertical screen, in which dragonxyk killed Chip and Dale several times to save time.
But, speaking of RPG-type games, I do not know them well, and so I have no knowledge as to which ones have more luck manipulation than the others. Pokemon? Final Fantasy? Dragon Warrior? If someone is more familiar and has some input, it would be appreciated. Thanks :)
I have a soft spot for RPG TASes, but I am still considering what's most lucky. Only started thinking about it when you brought it up in the other thread. I only want to make one or two suggestions... I'll make 'em soon! Maybe!
But on another note, I would like to nominate Swordless Link as an N64 TASer. You know, great contributions and all.
And I know Super Mario Kart is already in SNES TASes, but I think it should also be in "Innovative". The way the times were gotten was the most amazing part. Very unorthodox strategies were used on every track.
Unless I am misunderstanding that category, then nevermind!
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For glitchy TASes I'd like to nominate:
[941] SGB Pokémon Green (JPN v1.0) by Primorial#soup in 04:24.53
This run is very confusing as the Dokashira Door glitch connects areas of the game that should not be connected. The graphics get all screwed up and the end result is just weird.
I'd also like to nominate Emu for Genesis TASer of 2007. He has made three very nice Genesis runs:
[952] Genesis Mickey Mania (USA) by emu in 20:42.37
[921] Genesis Escape From Mars Starring Taz (USA) by emu in 16:17.27
[880] Genesis Dynamite Headdy (USA) by emu in 33:22.82
I also second the nomination of Swordless Link for N64 TASer of the year. His work with Super Mario 64 has been sublime. From what I hear he has also been doing some very nice work with Ocarina of Time :)
EDIT:
For innovative TAS of 2007 I'd like to nominate:
[817] SNES "all items" Super Metroid (JPN/USA) by JXQ in 1:10:45.02
For the new and exciting concept of input animation.
I nominate a sort of "boobie prize" category -- Gruefood of the Year.
My suggestions, which were all rejected for one good reason or another but I still found rather enjoyable:
#1493: Bisqwit's PC Star Control II in 35:03.5
#1533: Weatherton's N64 USA MARIOKART64 in 06:43.23
#1672: P.DOT's N64 The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time in 1:56:04.98
#1598: Baxter's NES The Legend of Zelda: Outlands in 18:54.9
#1572: mr_roberts_z's N64 Super Mario 64 in 1:03:10.8 (ccc-less run)
#1580: BagOfMagicFood, FODA, Randil's GB Super Mario Land 2 in 18:21.73
#1502: skamastaG & thegreginator's SNES Super Mario World "walkathon" in 14:03.7
PS: There's some good ones that aren't mario or zelda related :P like YO NOID! which is the awesomest game ever
I nominate a sort of "boobie prize" category -- Gruefood of the Year.
My suggestions, which were all rejected for one good reason or another but I still found rather enjoyable:
#1493: Bisqwit's PC Star Control II in 35:03.5
#1533: Weatherton's N64 USA MARIOKART64 in 06:43.23
#1672: P.DOT's N64 The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time in 1:56:04.98
#1598: Baxter's NES The Legend of Zelda: Outlands in 18:54.9
#1572: mr_roberts_z's N64 Super Mario 64 in 1:03:10.8 (ccc-less run)
#1580: BagOfMagicFood, FODA, Randil's GB Super Mario Land 2 in 18:21.73
#1502: skamastaG & thegreginator's SNES Super Mario World "walkathon" in 14:03.7
PS: There's some good ones that aren't mario or zelda related :P like YO NOID! which is the awesomest game ever
Not sure if thats a good idea but... I'll throw in Super Metroid ingame run for the banter.
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I'm not going to bother with nominating anything under the proposed categories right now, but I feel that there should be a unique award for Mukki and his Majora's Mask run (Titled either "Most persevered run" or "Most insane runner" or something similar) mainly because of the sheer amount of patience required for the run, mainly due to mupen and its trademark desyncs :)
Also, I'd nominate the new line of SMB runs (or the one that started it) for least expected improvments award.
I know neither of these awards exist, but I really don't care.
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Thank you all for more ideas.
One thing I want to avoid is having so many categories that people get sick of casting votes.
I think "most persevered/insane/patient/sexy TASer" is getting into that territory. They are all qualities that us TASers have by definition ;)
I also think "Least expected improvement" is too similar to "Best glitch discovery".
I'm wondering more opinions on "Best unpublished TAS". I see some merit but also see some downsides.
If any of the other decisions are unpopular, please let me know.
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