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Posted: 3/16/2007 1:51 AM
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Well I currently have Ages on hold (working on pocket bomberman right now), but plenty has happened while you were gone.
Posted: 3/16/2007 8:09 AM
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Hi E_alert =). Long time I saw you in here, heh. Vespa, yeah, I read in the Bomberman topic that you wanted a break from Zelda, no worries :). Just realised that I'm not done with the Pegasus Seed route for Ages yet, argh. I've only reached just after dungeon 5, lol. I... must... work... harder...! Dez: Was wondering if you would like to visit IRC sometimes so we can chat a bit with eachother? Will make it a bit easier for you to ask questions and such. I'm there quite often. 21%... hmm, you've soon got the Summer, right?
Posted: 3/16/2007 10:12 PM
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Going on IRC is quite impossible on my PSP. My PC has no internet access. I just successfully manipulated the star to be in the first screen.
Posted: 3/16/2007 10:18 PM
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I was kind a close with my guess then :). Oh, I didn't know you were using your PSP. Well, too bad then. Would like to have a chat with you sometimes. Was wondering... Have you been using hex editing anything so far? If I found a small improvement, it'll be quite easier for you to fix it. I really appreciate that you take your time and do this one!
Posted: 3/16/2007 11:29 PM
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I hex edit pretty often. Tell me where any improvement can be and I'll fix it right away.
Posted: 3/17/2007 10:37 AM
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I don't know any improvements at the moment, were just wondering. But now I know that I can be quite pity, haha ;D.
Posted: 3/19/2007 2:49 PM
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Hey Tompa, I noticed in your pegasus seed route, you have me not using one after leaving Subrosia and getting off of Ricky. Is there a reason behind that? Because there is a fairly long stretch before I get to Dungeon 3.
Posted: 3/19/2007 3:12 PM
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Hmm, must have forgot that :O... Shall think through if I really haven't got a reason to it.... No, can't come up with a reason. Bah, stupid me... Now I need to remake the route a bit, hmm. I'll upload the fixed version soon... But yeah, jump over the holes with the Ricky then you can get rid of him and using a seed. You have 4 of them now, right? EDIT: By the way... In dungeon 3, in the room with the hands, do you think that you can manipulate two seeds from those two pots you need to push? As you see, I've calculated that you are able to manipulate at least one of them. But if you manage to get two seeds, that would of course save time. Oh, yeah... I had calculated so you should use one more seed somewhere in dungeon 3, that means you'll have one left to be used after Subrosian. Then you only need to remove one from the numbers all the time.
Posted: 3/19/2007 3:22 PM
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Yes, I have 4. I was thinking maybe I could skip using a seed in the last area of the underground cave before using the level 3 key. That way you wont have to redo any of your route.
Posted: 3/19/2007 3:27 PM
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Let me go ahead and test to see if I could manipulate 2. Edit: Nope. I tried but I could only get one. And that was after wasting a lot of frames.
Posted: 3/19/2007 9:07 PM
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Hmm, how many frames? Is it faster to manipulate seeds from the second pot instead of the first one? I presume it will save time anyway to get 5 new seeds. Just wanted to be sure if I needed to change the route or not, but I guess I'll stick to the one I have.
Posted: 3/19/2007 9:25 PM
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It may be different in my run. What I did was fast fowarded Ego Buff's run to where I needed to manipulate the pegasus seeds. The first pot didn't give any no matter what I did. The second pot only gave me some when I made the first pot drop different seeds. And I had to delay around 4 seconds.
Posted: 3/19/2007 9:28 PM
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Anyway, heres what my run looks like so far. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/4539/UpToLevel3Entrance.vbm
Posted: 3/19/2007 9:28 PM
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Could you please send me a pm with a save state or the vbm or something so I can try a few things myself? I remember me being able to manipulate it without losing anytime, and I was only pressing the directions buttons. EDIT: Lol, whatever there's the movie :D. You don't need to double post in that short time, just edit. Edit again: Oh, nice! Didn't know you could destroy bombable walls using Ricky's fists :D. What a noob I am. Anyway, when you switch for the flute, you should have switched to the bracelet at the same time, and then switch for both the shovel and the pegasus seeds in the Subrosian world, will save you an item switch. Is it faster to S&Q after you've talked to Rosa? It might save time actually, but you might have tried this already. Why did you release Rightbutton before you left the Subrosian world...? Manipulating something? Can't understand what that could be... Overall, good segment. You taught me something new, now I really need to remake my speedrun. It has to be below 2 hours.
Posted: 3/19/2007 9:47 PM
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Ok this is from Ego Buff's run. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/4540/ebs_run.vbm EDIT: I wasn't thinking far enough ahead to switch to the bracelet and whistle at the same time. You must be really good at chess. I'm going to correct that right away. I haven't tested to see if SQing after talking to Rosa is faster. Will try it. I released the right button for 4 frames in order to manipulate the spider creatures to go a certain way.
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:00 PM
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Hmm, maybe I did those in my old bad manipulation way: Speed up, push it, go back one screen, push it, go back one screen etc. untill I get the seed. I did that in the beginning while I was doing my "Where to get Seeds" "walkthrough" ;D. But you'll probably get a different manipulating set up in your run, you might be able to do it anyway. EDIT: Chess... What had that to do with anything?;D But yeah, lol, I'm quite good at chess actually... Oh, you manipulate them at THAT point ?:O. Very early manipulating... Didn't know you could do it that way as well, annoying game lol.
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:14 PM
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You were able to get seeds from pushing the pots? I had to lift them up to get them.
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:21 PM
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I... am... stupid... ! Have misread my guide, I didn't even mention that you could get them from the pots :O. I'm confusing myself. Think my guide needs an update, and my pegasus route as well. There might be even more errors in it. Anyway, it will save those 4 seconds you lose by lifting the pot, so go for it. And sorry for my stupidness.
Posted: 3/20/2007 9:38 PM
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Save warping after getting Rosa was faster by over 2 seconds. I didn't even read your Over world route, silly me. At least I save one pegasus seed.
Posted: 3/20/2007 10:51 PM
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Good good =). Let's see... one seed more, hmm. I think you shall use it somewhere in dungeon 3, not sure though. It should be used before you reach the "Animal Region" with the Ricky, beacuse you are going to manipulate a seed from a chuchu, or similar, and you'll have 15 at that point so that's 20 after the refill. But with the one you spared now you'll have 21 (Which you can't have ;D). It's quite hard for me to know where it should be used... I've only estimated when they'll run out for you. So I belive my route won't work all the time. I hope it can help you a bit anyway=). Hehe, you better start reading my routes then ;D. I didn't do them for nothing ;) ^^.
Posted: 4/14/2007 6:14 PM
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Nearly a month ago now... How's going?
Posted: 4/16/2007 5:55 PM
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Do any of you guys have a youtube acount? I really want to watch these videos, but I can't use vbms.
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Posted: 4/16/2007 5:59 PM
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Sure you can. Just download the ROM and the emulator. Uploading the videos to YouTube would require encoding to .avi, and that would take a while.
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Posted: 4/17/2007 10:30 PM
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Last time I tried vbms, it got my Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure save file deleted.
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Posted: 4/18/2007 1:16 AM
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Your hand must of slipped onto your keyboard and done something bizarre for that to happen. It's really simple, to use, just go to the visualboy advance forums and download the rerecording version, then download the ROM, start up VBA, load the ROM up, then start playback. Your post reminds me of a bash.org quote
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