Post subject: IGN's "Top 100 games of all time" for 2008 is awful
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I was searching the web for reviews about good old "Day of the Tentacle" and found an entry about it in an old "Top 100 games ever" list on IGN. I then was curious about which games would be there on the most current list, and I got totally crushed after I saw it. Seriously, that list is the suckiest I've ever read. It seems to have been composed by a bunch of retards children that think the only games that have ever existed has either Zelda, Mario, Castlevania, GTA, Metroid in the title, or is the most recent EA Sports game. Games like Paper Mario make the list while Tetris is absent (or Sonic, heh), Japanese-Rpg games are overrepresented and even in that case there are glaring omissions like Chrono Trigger. This list is the male counterpart to these girls that think the best singers are the Spice Girls!! They don't even have the excuse that they just don't know better, as they purposely ignore titles chosen in their past lists with more brain and less fanboyism. I'm so disgusted with it, the best they could have gathered in a year, that I just had to write here that IGN (which I barely knew before) has just become a zero to the left as a game reference for me, and I wouldn't suggest anyone working in the game industry to listen to what those people consider it's good, because I don't want to see Mario's face painted over every sprite of every game in existence. I just had to rant over a bit. I feel better now. :)
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Omissions? Chrono Trigger is #2 or something. But actually, all top-something-games-ever suck.
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Is there like a list somewhere with all 100 games? Seriously... I can't be bothered to watch 100 different pages seperately.
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whining whining whining even in that case there are glaring omissions like Chrono Trigger. whining whining whining
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Omissions? Chrono Trigger is #2 or something.
That made my day.
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You wanna know why it sucks? Read the last line in the opening paragraph.
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The IGN Readers' Choice Top 100 Games of All Time!
Emphasis added. Leave it up to public brainlessness and of course you'll end up with the overhyped Ocarina of Time in the #1 position. List discounted.
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I love the comments below it. 5 pages of "Copy and paste this if you want IGN to include DKC2 in the 2009 editors list."
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Is there like a list somewhere with all 100 games? Seriously... I can't be bothered to watch 100 different pages seperately.
100. ESPN NFL 2K5 99. Madden NFL 2005 98. Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising 97. Paper Mario 96. Pikmin 2 95. Advance Wars 94. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 93. Half-Life 92. WWF No Mercy 91. Madden NFL 2004 90. Unreal Tournament 89. Chrono Cross 88. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow 87. Forza Motorsport 86. Grand Theft Auto IV 85. Kingdom Hearts 84. Metroid: Zero Mission 83. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem 82. Wario Ware, Inc: Mega Microgame$ 81. Mass Effect 80. Burnout 3: Takedown 79. Golden Sun 78. Project Gotham Racing 2 77. The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap 76. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 75. Tales of Symphonia 74. Jak 3 73. WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2006 72. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness 71. StarCraft 70. Shadow of the Colossus 69. Golden Sun: The Lost Age 68. The Legend of Zelda 67. Metroid Fusion 66. The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages 65. Grand Theft Auto III 64. Shenmue 63. God of War II 62. ESPN NFL Football 61. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow 60. Portal 59. Wario Ware Twisted! 58. Jade Empire 57. Call of Duty 56. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 55. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption 54. Unreal Tournament 2004 53. Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow 52. NCAA Football 2004 51. Gran Turismo 4 50. Halo 2 49. World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 48. Final Fantasy X 47. Skies of Arcadia 46. Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening 45. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 44. Fire Emblem 43. Mario Kart DS 42. Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando 41. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 40. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes 39. Ninja Gaiden (Xbox) 38. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 37. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 36. Suikoden II 35. Super Mario World 34. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 33. Half-Life 2 32. Perfect Dark 31. Guitar Hero (Game & Guitar Controller Bundle) 30. Final Fantasy VII 29. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 28. Xenogears 27. EarthBound 26. God of War 25. Metroid Prime 24. Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal 23. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 22. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 21. Super Mario Galaxy 20. Super Mario Bros. 3 19. Conker's Bad Fur Day 18. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 17. Super Smash Bros. Melee 16. Super Smash Bros. Brawl 15. Halo: Combat Evolved 14. Final Fantasy III (US) 13. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 12. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory 11. Super Mario 64 10. Shenmue II 9. Resident Evil 4 8. Metal Gear Solid 7. GoldenEye 007 6. Super Metroid 5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 3. Soulcalibur 2. Chrono Trigger 1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time ... yes, I was bored this morning.
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re: "Top 100 games lists always suck", I refer you to Amiga Power: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/ap2/legend/top_100s.html A more accurate list I have never seen. But yeah, "Reader's Choice" basically means "Worst Choice" so I would discount any list like that with- wait, Ocarina of Time is #1? I can't ignore such a blatant disregard for game quality there. Batman on NES is a better game than OoT and it sucks.
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Half-Life 2 is higher than Half-Life... What.
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10. Shenmue II
Never heard of it... how could that many people vote on a game I haven't heard of?
16. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Wait, what??
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I think "Top 100 of the Mindless Populace" would be a better name for the list. Us gamers here seem to know better about what's goin' on here. I always reject these kind of lists anyway, mostly because when I can accurately predict nine times out of ten what the top five games are anyway, I highly question whether they're actually "the best" or someone pushing their favorites as "the best".
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33. Half-Life 2 15. Halo: Combat Evolved A...aha....haha....AHAHAHA! That's a riot. Also, Streets of Rage 2 is nowhere on there, yet a handful of football and wrestling games are. Are you serious?
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LagDotCom wrote:
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/ap2/legend/top_100s.html
My eyes hurt.
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Half-Life 2 is higher than Half-Life... What.
IMO Half-Life is vastly overhyped. Apart from the long playable intro, not much story goes on in the game (and even the intro isn't all that great). The writing is minimal and mediocre at best. The gameplay is 95% typical FPS and maybe 5% of something else, so there isn't much to see there either. What is it that makes it so hyped? I don't really know. Half-Life 2 on the other hand...
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No Mega Man games? No Doom? No Space Invaders? ;) Bleh.
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Be more verbose.
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No Mega Man games? No Doom? No Space Invaders? ;) Bleh.
Indeed. Where is my Space Invaders X?
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I count nine (9) games that were released in or before 1995. I don't think that statement needs any further explanation.
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Batman on NES [...] sucks.
I beg to differ.
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How about IGN's ACTUAL top 100. 100. Archon: The Light and the Dark 99. Rayman 2: The Great Escape 98. Quake II 97. Silent Hill 2 96. Wave Race 64 95. Bionic Commando 94. NIGHTS into Dreams... 93. Ultima VII: The Black Gate 92. WipEout 3 91. Pilotwings 90. Okami 89. Alone in the Dark 88. Star Wars (Atari) 87. Advance Wars 86. Perfect Dark 85. Mafia 84. Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle 83. World of Warcraft 82. Syndicate 81. Space Invaders 80. Ninja Gaiden Black 79. Secret of Mana 78. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 77. Star Fox 76. Final Fantasy VII 75. GoldenEye 007 74. Sam & Max Hit the Road 73. Resident Evil 72. MechWarrior 2 71. Planescape: Torment 70. Tecmo Bowl 69. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 68. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 67. Mega Man 2 66. Burnout 3: Takedown 65. Thief II: The Metal Age 64. Total Annihilation 63. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution 62. Wolfenstein 3-D 61. Phantasy Star IV 60. Prince of Persia 59. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 58. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! 57. ICO 56. NHL '94 55. Final Fantasy IV 54. Contra 53. Rome: Total War 52. Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty 51. Sonic the Hedgehog 50. Super Smash Bros. 49. Guitar Hero II 48. Shining Force II 47. God of War 46. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 45. Battlefield 1942 44. Panzer Dragoon Saga 43. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 42. The Legend of Zelda 41. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island 40. Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 39. Super Mario Bros. 3 38. Final Fantasy Tactics 37. Pokemon Red/Blue 36. Grim Fandango 35. Grand Theft Auto III 34. Deus Ex 33. Fallout 32. Halo: Combat Evolved 31. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 30. Metroid Prime 29. Dragon Warrior 28. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness 27. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 26. Half-Life 25. SimCity 2000 24. Street Fighter II 23. Super Mario Kart 22. System Shock 2 21. X-COM: UFO Defense 20. Metal Gear Solid 19. Doom 18. Chrono Trigger 17. Super Mario World 16. Shadow of the Colossus 15. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 14. Pirates! (1987) 13. Ms. Pac-Man 12. Star Wars: TIE Fighter (Collector's CD-ROM) 11. StarCraft 10. Resident Evil 4 9. Final Fantasy VI 8. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 7. Super Metroid 6. Half-Life 2 5. Super Mario 64 4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3. Civilization II 2. Tetris 1. Super Mario Bros. I liked this one better due to some certain games that made it on there. ;) Also due to the year it was made, 2007, 2008, and later 2006 games would not be on there.
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That one's even worse because they do the whole "this game is historically significant" thing, most obviously with Super Mario Bros., which by today's standards is a bad game with boring music and terrible level design.
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How the heck was Half-Life 2 historically significant?
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...Ocarina of Time is #1? I can't ignore such a blatant disregard for game quality there. ...Super Mario Bros., which by today's standards is a bad game with boring music and terrible level design.
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I think it would be very difficult for anybody to argue in favour of SMB's level design.
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LagDotCom wrote:
I think it would be very difficult for anybody to argue in favour of SMB's level design.
I do, however, want to hear why you consider OoT a blatant disregard for game quality.
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I would like to call OoT a horrible designed game. Sorry. Gayme. It doesn't exactly add something awesome to the gaming industry, and it has loads of portions of the game only put in there to artificially expand the time you have to put down on the game (The same flaw as much of the Metal Gear/Solid-series has, especially MG2:SS, I mean, Hideo, we love you and all but running up towers is not _that_ fun for 2 games). OoT also is ruined by the god damn fairy, and any game with such easy to overcome auto-targeting practically admits that its controllers are not as good as they could be. Sure it's a decent piece of firewood, but no way that it's "N-N-N-NUMBER ONE!!", at very best, OoT should consider itself lucky if it ended up on the top 50. Besides, dig out 100 people who never ever played a video game, let them play Tetris, OoT, Resident Evil 4, Super Mario World and Halo and see which game they rank highest. (I'm not saying "NEWEST IS BESTEST", not at all, but I am saying that OoT is not that great of a game) Nostalgia is a great thing, until we go back and play it. Something "Top 100000 gaymes of all times" never really figure out.
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omg lol this is so fake!!!1 the nes cant produce music like this!