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Sadly not hexfriendly at all. There's a lot of random lag all the time and things like that.
There are several levels where this trick can be used, the earliest one (To our knowledge) is at Orang-Utan Gang, which is the second to last level in the forest world.
So the whole Ice World will be redone. Hopefully Arne will join the run now though and that should probably speed up the progress.
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Argh... I'm so stupid. I knew about the steel barrel version, but I couldn't imagine that it would actually be faster. Then I realized it will save two switches with the monkeys, so that would obviously make it faster.
Very nice!
Edit: Just testing this strategy myself, managed to shave some more frames. But whatever.
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I don't know, but I like the way it's on the submitted run, makes it look more complex than it really is. I'm sad that this glitch can't be used on DKC3, it would kick some serious asses...
I am old enough to know better, but not enough to do it.
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I have been working on it off and on the last 4 years. Current progress is the glitch in Croctopus Chase. I'm waiting for Arne to get back his motivation before I'll continue with it.
I also have started an improvement to it from scratch, using the 1.51 version.
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Tompa wrote:
I'm waiting for Arne to get back his motivation before I'll continue with it.
Prepare to wait forever.
But yes, 101% is in big need of an improvement but Croctopus Chase has just made us pretty demotivated.
I believe Tompa has a WIP on his youtube channel though?
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Thank you guys for the fast reply, too bad about your motivation though...
I'm not very familiar with the tricks of DKC1, but I'd love to help you out.
so, if you can (and want, of course), please post (or send me) your wips.
I'm out of projects at the moment, so I can give it a lot of my spare time.
Edit:
well, I'll take the delay as a "don't mess with our run, we can handle it :)" answer and will wish you the best of luck.
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The WIP has already been posted at the end of page 3. Even though that one has redone the Ice World and will include the glitch in Croctopus Chase, which is the reason I haven't finished the run.
I really want to finish the run however and will do so eventually.
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Oh, that wip, sorry to ask for something that's already here. I believe you worked hard on those four years and the best we can do is give you all the time you need to finish it, good luck.
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A question... It has been found that you can skip the bosses (Won't be faster for all of them) and still get 101% at the end.
Should a 101% TAS do this or should all levels + bosses be completed anyway?
For reference: 100% Super Metroid skips two bosses as of now, so I would presume this should also be OK.
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Eye Of The Beholder wrote:
For me it would be ok, as long as you visit every bonus. Imo the boss fights in DK are very boring.
Actually, the 101% doesn't really visit every bonus. Some will be start-selected as soon as you start entering the bonus room. Some few rooms doesn't count towards 101% as well.
I'm also curious knowing what people think about skipping a boss (or maybe it'll be two) in a 101% run. It's a bit strange to not play through them all, but then again, we don't play everything in the game either.
Depends if skipping them is even more boring than fighting them (some of the fights have decent entertainment potential). Also, which bosses would be skipped this way?
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
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moozooh wrote:
Depends if skipping them is even more boring than fighting them (some of the fights have decent entertainment potential). Also, which bosses would be skipped this way?
It's not set in stone yet if and how this will go down.
I'm pretty sure the boss on the second world might save time. It's pretty much:
Complete world 2 except the boss.
Go to first world, do the map warp to Orang-utan-gang.
Complete the third world normally
Re-enter the third world completing the rest of the stages.
Take Funky's Flight to fourth world.
All in all, it will look pretty strange and might save some seconds.
Since the bonuses are barely acknowledged in the 101% version of this game, I don't think it's that big a deal to skip some bosses as well. On the other hand, those bosses wouldn't be shown on this site at all then. Maybe someday there could be a run that does all bosses and completes all bonuses successfully.
