James Pond is back for his third adventure, trying to stop the evil Dr.Maybe and his rodent army from taking over the world.
  • James Pond 3 is a platformer where your main character has enough speed to rival even Sonic. It's got an overworld map spanning over 100 levels; many of them holding crucial items, extra characters, upgrades and challenging bosses. Luckily enough you don't have bother with all of them in order to finish the game.
    • Certain levels need to have 4 teacups collected in order to finish the level. Naturally I only do this where it's necessary.
    • Minimaps need to be collected to open up extra routes to secret levels.
  • Recorded using Gens9, 6 buttons. No special emulator settings changed.
  • Completes the game as fast as possible.
  • No warping or passwords used.
  • Takes damage to save time, no deaths.
  • Abuses programming errors in the game.
  • 6022 frames faster than previous run
    • The previous run was cancelled, on account of this improved run being created immediately

Techniques used

  • When running down a slope at an angle, you'll accelerate to a speed much greater than what you can normally achieve on flat ground. You’ll slow down again once you start running on flat ground for a while though. Simple solution to that, just jump! It takes more time to slow you down in air than it does on dry land, but it doesn’t last forever. This is a great way of preserving both horizontal and vertical momentum. Can't run up the U-Shaped valley? No problem, simply jump up before the game has the chance to slow you down instead!
  • Jumping off angled slopes won't send you vertically upwards; it'll send you off at an angle as well. Useful for clearing gaps, taking shortcuts and miniature speed boosts.
  • Most items in the game can be stood on and jumped off. Grab an item, jump, and with a bit of good timing you can drop them so that you end up landing on them in mid air for a few frames. You can then jump off them right now, giving you much easier access to higher areas. This is very easy to perform in real time.
  • Hit the underside of a floating block and it'll be activated. Hit the edge and you'll just stop whack into it and stop dead. Jump on the right frame however and you’ll hit the bottom corner and Pond will pass straight through it instead. This made it easy to collect the enclosed Minimap on Wensleydale Wastelands, rather than needing to bother with destroying the rocks first.
  • Pond uses 2 types of explosives in the game: Bombs and Dynamite. Picking up a bomb has no immediate effect, but releasing it will start the countdown. Nothing can stop it now other than leaving the bomb so far behind that it gets wiped out of memory. Picking up a dynamite stick will instantly start the fuse countdown though, but unlike the bomb this one can be stopped simply by chucking it off screen. Doing this repeatedly makes it easier to transport the explosive a great distance, allowing me to use it in areas it was not originally intended for.
  • When hit, both Pond and enemies will be given temporary invincibility, allowing Pond to pass through them without taking damage. Pond has this luxury at the beginning of each level, very useful indeed. Items can be thrown at enemies to make them take damage; luckily holding items doesn’t affect your speed.
  • When flying the rocket you undergo effects of low gravity. Jumping and grabbing the rocket at the same time will send you upwards with the speed of your jump, but coupled with effect of the low gravity; causing you to ascend faster than what the rocket propulsion can usually achieve. Even works without any fuel.

Improvements

General

  • Information boxes were turned off at the beginning. Now we don’t have to sit through thirty or so windows telling us what each item does.
  • Faster falling is used by pressing down while in the air. This allows faster travelling down caverns, and landing earlier allows Pond to start his superior-to-jumping sprinting a lot earlier.
  • Better health management

Notable changes/Possible questions

  • East of Edam-Throwing rocks at the 2 rats allowing me to pass through rather than doing a slow jump over them
  • Parmesan Plains-Originally I did a few small jumps at the beginning of the level for the sake of manipulating them into collecting some health. No need to do that in this run, since I can collect health on a later level without any cost to the time. Once I’ve cleared all the huge gaps, I dump the spring shoes earlier so I can run to the finish instead.
  • Gouda Gully-Not jumping all the way to the finish, but landing on an edge to project myself towards the ending.
  • Banana Basin-You’ll see at the beginning that I whack into the wall rather than running all the way round. For some reason this cannot be achieved on this terrain; Pond would have just gone flying upwards when attempting to take the corner, so I needed to stop
  • Lower Gloopy-A much better climbing of the main vine this time. The input is actually symmetrical for each side, and gets repeated over and over. The original run had jumping all over the place.
  • Toadstool Point-I manage to get the bomb to the upper level without the need for the extra height boost from the cheese.
  • Little Pimple-Jumping off the dynamite stick saved a lot of time getting the minimap. No need to get some dynamite, wait for it to blow up some TNT, wait for the explosion to stop, then pilot a rocket up there.
  • The Fungle Jungle-Screw smashing the TV apart and using the weird ghoul to elevate me to the top, just jump off the TV in mid air. Lots of time saved there. Of course, I couldn’t just do a well preserved jump like on other levels because there is a mushroom at the bottom of the valley. If I wanted to run down, then jump up again I would just whack straight into it.
  • Rennet Mine 1-Much better juggling of the 2 dynamite sticks at the end. Getting hurt by the first TNT explosion rather than the second was a better idea, since it gave a large window of time for which the second stick could blow up, ensuring optimum performance.
  • Rennet Mine 2-You’ll notice I manage to create a gap without the need to blow up the TNT. Looks like the destruction of the land and the TNT box are actually independent actions, health saved here so that’s less needed to collect later on. This is the only gap it actually works on though as it seems the trigger which creates this one gap has a furthest distance from the trigger for the TNT explosion..
  • Lair of the Mush beast-He takes constant damage now, no gaps.
  • Slimesworld-Under-Cheese-I can ignore collecting 2 health, don’t need ‘em
  • Curdle Mine-Grabbing a rock for the sake of passing through a later enemy, few frames saved there
  • Greater Pimple-I manage to get through the final blockade without losing any health. Missing those 2 health has already paid for itself
  • Fruitopolis-After getting the first cup, I don’t bother running on the ceiling to get out, I turn around and use momentum preservation techniques to get me out much faster
  • Curdleburg-Smashing the TV on my head rather than on the ground, the ghoul comes out a few frames earlier and also comes out from a higher point. Talk about killing two birds with one stone. Carrying that one tonne wait made me go so fast I cant even stop myself!
  • Lower Curdleburg-A direct jump onto the bullet at the beginning, not bounce on the rat first.
  • Nibblestone Fell-I needed to hang about the top of the first chamber in order to set off the rocks in the area above me. Better rocket flying, managing to get through each gap in one swoop, without the need to let go of the propulsion. Leaving the rocket behind much earlier by getting hurt saved a bit of time. Doesn’t matter health wise, since the later levels are just swarming with health pick ups anyway.
  • Nibblestone Quarry-Just before the minimap I land on invisible platforms. There’s no glitches, or ways or revealing them.
  • Yoghurtopia-One part I deliberately slow down because I needed to be properly synchronised so I that don’t hit the bouncing poison bottles above me.
  • Wensleydale Wastelands- Faster destruction of the moving bushes, and earlier release of the rocket.
  • Triple Scoopingdon-Faster route getting to the top
  • Scoopingdon-No I don’t slow down, just an illusion caused by the snowflakes changing direction.
  • Bovine Aerial Assault-Constant damage to the boss, no gaps this time. Well, expect for the final shot. Once his machine gets destroyed, it moves very slowly to where the gap is before lowering into it; so I just waited until he was over there anyway. For the second half, the final blow to him was delivered by dropping the weight from from a greater height, thus allowing for an earlier end to the input

Possible frame images

  • 1831-Good selection of items in the game, although the score doesn’t look too impressive. Zilch.
  • 21618-Cute picture of old Dibley
  • 62575-Crucial level with lots of enemies
  • 81231-Shots of Maybe’s precious moon cheese
  • 82464-Pretty overworld shot
  • 82857-Shots of Maybe’s precious Stiltonium Machines
  • 117979-Nice shot of the final boss

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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1709: Flip's Genesis James Pond 3: Operation Starfish in 33:50.62
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Questions about possible improvements that may just be my imagination: Why didn't you jump straight up that vertical area instead of running in the level before LumpsVille Why did you jump once on the spikes in Lower Gloopy? Wouldn't it be faster to just keep running until you are hurt? In Nibblestone Fell, couldn't you have tried t get some momentum when doing that rollercoaster/spike/bomb area? It seems like you just push the direction you want to go against the wall, which is not the fastest way to get to the other side. or does it matter because of low grav? In Scoopington do you ascend as fast as possible? Didn't you mention in another level you could jump and then grab on or something? lol slippery slopes Some areas, like the first one, Fungal Jungle, Slimesworld, Curdleburg, the last nibblestone area, wensleydale wastelands, and triple scoopington, really kick the ass of your old run. Conclusion: this was an awesome run and a great improvement to the last one, and so quickly. Easy yes vote.
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Huh. As a kid, I remember renting this game from blockbuster, and being severely disappointed. Not at all like this TAS. Still, towards the end it starts getting highly repetetive, with so many levels, so few bosses, and so many of the levels lasting all of 5 seconds. I like the run, and I'm giving it a yes, but if there's any shorter overworld route, I think I'd prefer a run using that to this.
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i would like to see james pond 2 because i owned it as a kid and therefore it was a good game. all games that you owned as a kid were good even if they were bad. and now, all old games are bad even if they are good (metroid, zelda, final fantasy) because i didn't own them as a kid. only the n64 zelda's and ps1+2 ff's were good because i sort of owned them.
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I'm not familiar with the game at all... I expected it to be more like James Bond with a fish motif than something sort of like McKids with a James Bond motif. Towards the beginning I was trying to understand why he ran so fast yet jumped so slowly. Later, you used jumping on a downward slope to accelerate forward very quickly. I really don't understand how the jumping speed works, but things generally seemed quicker later in the run. Entertainment was also highly variant. Some of the levels were really cool, especially the (few) boss fights and the really quick levels like "Slippery Slopes"... but a lot of it was boring, generic run-to-the-right kind of stuff. I'm between a weak yes and a meh. I think I'll watch it again when I'm more well-rested.
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Shame this hasn't gotten more votes, though I myself am guilty of not watching it either. Expect a vote from me very soon when I have time to watch this, as I loved this game. :)
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Heck yes! Shame Finnius was never rescued but who needs him when you can abuse acceleration to leap into the stratosphere? :) Too bad most people haven't played this game.... No way to accurately tell them how tough a lot of this game is and how much of it was completely skipped or blown through. Also, I had forgotten how amazingly punny a lot of the game was. I remembered the cheese-name-puns but the enemies.... Johnny Ratten? *groan*
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Woah! This run was really fast-paced and had many interesting techniques in it. Yes vote when I can.
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FreshFeeling wrote:
... I expected it to be more like James Bond with a fish motif than something sort of like McKids with a James Bond motif.
I was thinking the same kind of thing about Kingdom Hearts... Anyway, I liked the run and the abused physics. I didn't see any problems either. Voting yes.
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My first facial expression when I first saw this submission was a big fat smile. It was nice to see the chacter sometimes moving rapidly. *throws in another yes vote*
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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I saw half of the previous movie, I'll check on this by the end of the week.
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Great run, got very repetitive towards the end though, but I suppose it can't be helped unless some super glitch is discovered.
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I sat through the whole movie, and was not entertained at all... sure, he went fast, but I got extremely bored watching him run fast as hell, slow down to kill or collect something, then speed up again. Sorry, but a no vote for me.
adelikat wrote:
I very much agree with this post.
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Forget party hats, Christmas tree hats all the way man.
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For me, it got better after 20 minutes. It's a long movie, but there was some nice stuff going on here and there. Some of the bosses are quite funny too.
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The run was good, you maneuvered around those weird levels very quickly. One or two spots seemed not-quite-perfectly optimized on first viewing, but it's entirely possible I missed something or I don't know all the limits of the game engine. One complaint I do have is that when waiting for dynamite to blow up, you're mostly just standing in place. Perhaps there wasn't enough time to do anything interesting besides twitch (which is worse than standing) but between all the fast running it seemed a little out of place. The first boss fight also has similar problems; imitating his movements was great, but otherwise you're just waiting and then jumping on him mostly the same way over and over again. The game itself does seem very repetitive, there's not much change in the action and I did find it got pretty tedious towards the end. The graphics are quite colourful, at least, and there's a fair amount of humour in the game. The sound on the other hand is terrible. Overall, a weak yes vote.
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Wow, this is a very enteratining game, I had no idea. I expected to sit through some boring 30minute movie of a game I never heard of. I am pleasantly suprised. Good movie and the TAS quality seems solid. Easy yes vote from me.
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [1018] Genesis James Pond 3: Operation Starfish "best ending" by Flip in 33:50.62