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So how much time does this Palace Skip save then? I'm guessing it'll be pretty massive :p.
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I think it's around 1.5 hours.
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Is it region specific, or any version works? Not trying to get the TAS or another language or anything, just want to try it out (and I don't have (J) version).
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I verified that Palace Skip is real on stream by performing a Double Jump underneath the floor from already accessible out of bounds using a recent glitch. https://www.twitch.tv/tasmalleo/v/58339340 I'll have a detailed video on this in a few days, sorry for the wait. This is only possible on the Japanese version of the game due to the way that the game spawns your partner. I'll explain in the video in the next few days.
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Malleoz wrote:
I verified that Palace Skip is real on stream by performing a Double Jump underneath the floor from already accessible out of bounds using a recent glitch. https://www.twitch.tv/tasmalleo/v/58339340 I'll have a detailed video on this in a few days, sorry for the wait. This is only possible on the Japanese version of the game due to the way that the game spawns your partner. I'll explain in the video in the next few days.
Conglaturations on the find Malleo. Props to Really_Tall (?) for theorizing (?) it. Sub-2 TAS of 2016 hype?
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So I just found a way to do Teleporter Room Early with Super Boots! This will save a couple of minutes (exact timesave unknown), and means the TAS will now finish with the regular boots and hammer as Teleporter Room Early was the only reason Super Boots were still necessary. Link to video This also means that there will be no ticking in the run apart from at the point in Chapter 2 where it's meant to be there. what ticking
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Hey, this is only relevant for a 100% run, but what enemies outside (mini)bosses have their tattles appear in the trash if you fought them without tattling? I was thinking maybe those Yux and some variants, but not sure about anything else. Also with all these discoveries, any of those help in a 100%?
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regarding tattles: I believe only unique encounters get the bin. If you can encounter it more than once, you'd best tattle.
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jlun2 wrote:
Hey, this is only relevant for a 100% run, but what enemies outside (mini)bosses have their tattles appear in the trash if you fought them without tattling? I was thinking maybe those Yux and some variants, but not sure about anything else. Also with all these discoveries, any of those help in a 100%?
Wow I didn't know you could find tattle somewhere else than fighting an enemy. I restarted a whole game only for getting tattles I didn't get.
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Palace Skip Explanation Link to video
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Post subject: Malleo's TAS stream on Saturday
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Malleo has completed the new TAS and will be streaming it live on his Twitch channel this Saturday, May 21st at 6 PM GMT, or 2 PM Eastern Daylight Time (EDT). Hype!
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I'll have to catch that at a later date; I'm going to be out of town then. Congrats to all involved for their hard work!
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Palace skip done on console! https://www.twitch.tv/sjorec/v/69211509
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How? :o Also, that looks nothing like the original method; no double jump or yoshi spawning. Does that mean it's not (J) exclusive?
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Link to video It uses the ultra hammer tho
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Since no-one else has mentioned it yet: there is a new(ish?) glitch called the Hazard Respawn Glitch. Whenever you touch the ground (maybe after a jump only?) while having control of Mario, the game updates where Mario should respawn if he falls into a hazard. If you jump frame-perfectly upon landing each jump, this doesn't happen, instead respawning Mario in the center of each room. This so far has three known useful applications (two in all versions; one not useful in JP): Prologue: Blooper skip {video 1} {video 2} (2 frame-perfect inputs onto boat panel, where the respawn position also doesn't update. RTA viable) Chapter 1: Bridge skip {video} (~10 frame-perfect inputs into river; 1 frame perfect-input on respawn) Non-JP: Ms Mowz skip {video} Other applications include a faster/easier West Rogueport Early (as in Ms Mowz skip, just go straight past both rooms), and TTYD room early (same, but Goombella buffer out of bounds and walk on the seam to the Pit pipe)
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Now I'm really curious how the 100%/completionist route would be like in a TAS. Also completely unrelated to the TAS, but over here https://youtu.be/HnxXJ5bT2SM?t=452 To the right of this block/floor, is a tiny wall and some chasm or whatever. I always wondered what's there exactly. I don't have the game on this computer atm, so can someone please use moonjump/free camera view and take a pic of that section? ☺️
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I just checked it out in Dolphin, and jumping over the ledge brings you down into the room with the Palace Key that you get to when doing Palace Skip.
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New glitch? New glitch. Link to video
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Very interesting that there IS now a way to get Ultra Hammer early in the English version (which would improve the ratings of a future submission of this game, considering the current one is hampered by the Japanese version requirements). The problem I fear is that setup for this glitch would cost more time than it would save...
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So yeah, because of this new Super Jump glitch, if we can find a way to get out of bounds onto the train tracks WITHOUT jumping, then we have a faster BTS
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Here's a video describing the new Super Jump glitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw4np1hVgr0 We're so close!
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With this Super Jump glitch, is it possible to skip the train and grab the sixth star right away in an all stars run?