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FractalFusion wrote:
I heard rumors that it could be done (damaging Sigma with the hadoken) and I heard mostly that it does nothing, so I'm not sure. Do you remember where you hit Sigma specifically, or how close you were to the face? And does the face flash when hit?
Sigma has one big hitbox, and it doesn't matter where you hit it, and if you strike him with hadouken it'll just splash into him, and then nothing else'll happen. I've played around with this, and I've got the same results everytime. I'm pretty sure it's not possible at all.
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Which version of the ROM are you using? It's possible that v1.0 and v1.1 differ in this. I dunno. I guess I'll dig up the ole' cartridge tonight and see if I'm remembering this correctly or not. But I distinctly remember watching that big face flash after hadoukening Sigma.
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I've tried with both 1.0 and 1.1.
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Here is the (recently started) good run up to Chill Penguin defeated. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/235/Mega%20Man%20X%20%28V1.1%29%20%28U%29.smv The run is currently 163 frames ahead of DeHackEd's run. Beyond this point, the runs can no longer be compared easily. WIP1 timing and ROM Version 1.1.
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I like where this is going. giggidy giggidy giggidy. Seriously, looks good so far. Keep it up.
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Thereisnospoon wrote:
I like where this is going. giggidy giggidy giggidy. Seriously, looks good so far. Keep it up.
Quagmire laugh? ^_^ I love that show, the best ever made..
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
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I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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Nice double car-damage boost in the intro :-) Wouldnt you be able to save a few frames off the blue helicopter guys by jumping before your first shot so you can shoot them as they are descending? That's the only thing that pops out at me.
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asteron wrote:
Wouldnt you be able to save a few frames off the blue helicopter guys by jumping before your first shot so you can shoot them as they are descending? That's the only thing that pops out at me.
It turns out that they are transparent up to the point when they start attacking.
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Oh I hate to do this...
  • Dropping of those ball enemies is the LAGGIEST of the helicoptor actions. Avoid it.
  • You were a bit too far to the right just before Vile appeared and his airship had to move to correct for it.
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/327/ Could someone please just help me doing the trick with the cars? I just can't figure it out and I need help badly. Sorry if the movie sucks, but I've never played MMX before except on my Super NES, and I havn't compared it to other movies. :)
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Looks good so far. To do the car trick, you have to jump first before firing. Otherwise the car pushes you back. I'm currently at the end part of the intro stage, but I'm trying to manipulate Vile (the run is on hold for a while).
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I didn't watch your movie, so I don't know what your problem is, but I will explain the trick, as I know it. (I was going to do a 100% run of this game but didn't make it past the intro level). Shoot the car until it has one shot left before it dies. Let it follow you/hit you, but before it explodes, jump on and ride it for a couple of frames, this seems to reset its self-destruct sequence.
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The thing is that I can't delay it enough to be able to jump onto the next ledge before I get hit by a shot. :/
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You might try shooting it starting sooner or later, or pausing between shots. I remember having similar problems when I did this level, but solved it without much trouble.
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Well, I can't. 'cause I don't think while playing, and I know nothing about this or any other game, so I wont ever pass that point without help. :)
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watch Dehacked's WIP and see how he handles it. I basically copied my intro stage from him, mixed with a little bit of common sense. It can be done. I'm not sure what you mean by "I can't think," but I would suggest using frame advance which gives you infinite time to think.
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Maybe you should've watched the movie before replying, just a suggestion, and I did try to copy the exact movements from both dehacked's and Fractalfusions videos, but I guess that something's still wrong, though I cannot figure out what.
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Try jumping one frame before firing. Basically, the input should look like this. (when you regain control) Frame x: B > Frame x+1: BY > Frame x+2: (B) > (and so on) It works for me, so it should work for you. If you still can't get it to work, I'll try to make it work. Sometimes, the timing is different for no apparent reason.
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Don't even bother. I'm giving up, it's not even good. It's my first try, which means I'm most certainly losing frames at several places, so I'd guess I'll leave it to someone else, as I wrote in some other topic (I think) I'm not gonna try this anymore, I don't think while playing, I just do what I've seen others do. :)
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/382/-%20mmx.smv Ok, I lose alot of frames in the end of the introstage, but I guess it can't be helped, or it can, but I don't care, which is why I'm gonna call this "version 1". And I also lose alot of frames somewhere between when Vile picks me up and when I enter Chill penguins stage, and I don't know where that comes from, so... A little help please? :) (Yes, I do suck and I know nothing about this game, no need to mention.)
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I don't think you suck, your attempt looks a lot better than mine did. You may have lost frames because you were not on the EXTREME left edge of the screen when vile's ship dropped him, it looks like it had to fly to the right a few pixels. It looked like the password screen was up for a longer than it had to be (It might not be, just my first impression). Hope it helps. Are you doing an any% or a 100%? I vote 100
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  • You need to be a bit more left when the last car is destroyed and the cutscene starts. I know that's trouble since you've hit the end of the screen, but there's a slight time loss there.
  • Make Vile dash up to you. This is luck manipulation.
  • You can skip a small (about 2 second) portion of the end of the boss intro screen. Mash the start button during the sequence to see what I mean.
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I know I was too far to the right, and I guess it could be helped, but I'll finish this and set up my goal according to this instead of someone elses, I guess it's just me, but I feel more motivated when I'm beating myself instead of anyone else. I tried having Vile dash up to me but it jumped away when it got to me. And I don't get what you mean with the last point. :/ I'm gonna do one where I only pick up what's necessery to complete the game, like the one that's already up at the site, I've never liked adding new types of videos/runs.
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Graveworm wrote:
I tried having Vile dash up to me but it jumped away when it got to me.
Try shooting rapidly (not autofire) at it and it might do something different. Then again, it might not. I'm having trouble at this part too. Vile keeps dashing at me at the very start instead of jumping back and firing a shot. I might have to redo the car sequence.
Graveworm wrote:
And I don't get what you mean with the last point. :/
Shortly after the music ends on the boss intro screen, you can press start (or B or Y) to fade screen. If you don't, the screen doesn't fade for another 2 seconds. Believe me, I made that mistake before, and all throughout my test run.
Graveworm wrote:
I'm gonna do one where I only pick up what's necessery to complete the game, like the one that's already up at the site, I've never liked adding new types of videos/runs.
I had the same mindset, only improving on other's runs. But it's nice to add some new runs, right?
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