Super Mario World - Fabian (also called TAS) - by JXQ

Essentials:
This run satisfies the following criteria:
  • Aims for fastest time
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Abuses programming errors
  • Manipulates luck
  • Emulator Used: SNES9x 1.43 +v9
    • Use WIP1 Timing - on
    • Allow Left+Right/Up+Down - off
    • Volume Envelope Height Reading - off
    • Fake Mute desync Workaround - off
    • Sync samples with sound CPU - off

Overview

If you don't count the four runs I've done for Super Demo World, this is my first run of Super Mario World. I actually went back and forth on doing this project because the existing run was one of my favorites, even though it had a few places that could be improved.
This is the first time I've done a run to obsolete an existing run that wasn't mine, which made me play a bit differently. In addition to aiming for entertainment, I aimed to do things differently than the previous run where possible. I also had to tailor my actions to make sure that the score I was getting was optimal for fadeout lag (this is described in more detail below).
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that if you're reading this, you've already watched the previous Super Mario World run by flagitious and VIPer7. This is probably a safe assumption since the AVI holds the record for most downloads. If you haven't, go watch it here, because it's awesome.
The main sources of improvement came from a few new discoveries:
  • Abuse of oscillating speeds
When Mario reaches a top speed and the direction is still being held, the variable that represents his speed actually oscillates between 3-5 different values, depending on the type of movement. When in the air, the directional button can be released and Mario's speed remains constant. This is heavily abused in the first four levels with continuous jumping (the hopping glitch), but also used in a few other places where there isn't enough space to get up to full running speed.
Another related technique that can be used is called 8/5. (Credit goes to jimsfriend for this idea.)
It's a way to partially abuse Mario's oscillating running speed, while still keeping the "P-meter" charged. In the air, releasing the direction for 8 frames, and then pressing it for 5 (together with X or Y) will bring Mario's P-meter back to full. During the first 8 frames, the speed can be manipulated to the highest value, and the 5 frames afterwards simply go through the cycle of values once, putting it back at its highest value.
  • Better understanding of fadeout lag
There are three different types of "fadeout lag". The first is after a normal exit, when the black circle closes around Mario. The second is after a boss, when the screen fades before giving the time bonus. The third is during a key exit, while the keyhole is opening and closing. The first two types seem to be determined by Mario's score, while the third is a combination of the score and the current sprites that are on-screen. Although I don't understand completely how fadeout lag is determined, I believe I understand it well enough for the purpose of minimizing it.
Since score is a determining factor in fadeout lag, I would poke different values into the game's RAM to see what scores would help me the most. Although I was already planning on doing the levels in a different way than the previous run, this gave me another reason to do so.
There are still places with random lag that I do not understand - certain doors and map transitions sometimes cause different amounts of lag.
  • Better overall control of flight
Using the "one frame on, one frame off" approach allows for more precise control of diving and catching air when flying.

Detailed comparison to previous run

  • Gained 1 frame on the title screen by using the select button. (Thanks to Bablo for this tip.)
Yoshi's Island 2
The first thing you'll notice is that I don't get the extra lives that the previous run gets. This is to keep the shell and use it later for different antics and for a different final score. I avoid coins in ? blocks for an optimal score as well (each one adds 10 points).
  • Gained 38 frames from the hopping glitch.
Yoshi's Island 3
Using the hopping glitch here is faster than running along the moving platforms, even when using 8/5, which is unfortunate because Mario spends part of the level above the screen. I try to avoid this as much as possible. You can also see Mario pass through some of the yellow blocks near the top of the screen. This happens because of the height they are at - Mario can fall through them, but not jump up through them.
  • Gained 23 frames from the hopping glitch.
Yoshi's Island 4
Quite similar to the previous version, except with the hopping glitch. I also was able to enter the pipe in a different way that started Mario already partly inside the pipe, which saved some time.
  • Gained 20 frames from the hopping glitch.
  • Gained 7 frames from entering the pipe differently.
#1 Iggy's Castle
Here is where 8/5 is used. Since the P-switch must be dropped at a speed slower than Mario's running speed, the hopping glitch cannot be used directly. This was done in the previous run by turning around, but I do it here by manipulating the oscillating values to drop the P-switch on the slowest value, and then moving Mario to the fastest.
Fadeout lag was especially crucial in this level - differing scores caused as much as 30 extra frames of lag!
  • Gained 13 frames using 8/5 in the first room.
  • Gained 9 frames during fadeout lag.
Donut Plains 1
Using 8/5 before the first koopa caused problems when grabbing the cape, so it was avoided. This level is similar to the previous runs, although I do not stomp as many koopas in order to get a better amount of points for the next few levels.
  • Gained 1 frame using more precise diving just before the key.
  • Gained 2 frames during fadeout lag.
Donut Secret 1
Water randomness in this game has always been frustrating. However, I discovered that swimming up through a corner quickly (when you aren't holding an item) pushes Mario forward a bit and will gain a couple frames. I use this technique four times, and you can sometimes notice the screen "jerk" a bit from pushing me forward. (The previous run used this trick once, but I don't think it was realized at the time)
  • Gained 1 frame from less lag on the map screen.
  • Gained 6 frames using the forward water boost.
  • Lost 1 frame from more lag after the second pipe.
  • Lost 2 frames manipulating Mario's cape spin to hit a necessary fish.
  • Gained 3 frames during fadeout lag.
Donut Secret House
This is the first level that really gains from more precise flight control, and from the ability to keep flight speed after flight has stopped by continuous jumping.
The Big Boo fight is different. It's not as jaw-dropping as the previous run's, but I didn't just want to copy that idea. Hopefully it still looks impressive. And to answer everyone's question: "Because you can only have seven active blocks at once."
  • 26 frames gained from keeping flight speed and better flight control.
  • 1 frame lost from more lag after first door.
  • 1 frame gained during fadeout lag.
Star World 1
I delay entering this level by one frame because it changes the way Mario is pushed from the blocks and I was able to finish the level much faster this way.
  • 3 frames lost from more lag on the map screen.
  • 1 frame lost from intentional delay when entering the level.
  • 8 frames gained from better use of the smashola technique.
Star World 2
Besides using the corner-swimming trick mentioned above at the beginning, this level is pretty similar to the previous run's. Not much to do in a water level.
  • 1 frame lost from more lag on the map screen.
  • 2 frames gained from forward water boost.
  • 3 frames gained from picking up the key differently.
Star World 3
I was surprised by how much I was able to improve this short level. Also, keyjump.
  • 1 frame lost from more lag on the map screen.
  • 24 frames gained from more precise flying and keeping flight speed.
Star World 4
Mario doesn't take advantage of full speed flight until he "pops his collar", and by collar, I mean cape. So it's most beneficial to fly up as little as possible on initial takeoff. However, since I need to collect a reserve feather here, I couldn't take advantage of this as much as I hoped. I improved this level by collecting shells without slowing down and keeping flight speed after getting the key.
I believe the different position of the two koopas above the key is what causes the extra fadeout lag here.
  • 19 frames gained from faster flight and keeping flight speed after getting the key.
  • 7 frames lost from fadeout lag.
Front Door
Room #2 was improved by manipulating the oscillating values of the medium-speed run. I was almost able to squeeze under another spike in room #5, but after a lot of testing, I just don't think it's possible.
The last room (Back Door) was improved the most, by getting flight speed immediately and keeping it by bouncing off the enemies. This room has a bit of lag, caused by the transparency effects (even though the light is not activated).
As far as Bowser goes, we've all been there, done that. So hopefully this is at least somewhat fresh.
  • 4 frames gained from less lag on the map screen.
  • 1 frame gained by flying sooner before door #2.
  • 3 frames gained in room #2 by abusing oscillating speeds.
  • 1 frame gained from less lag after entering room #2's exit.
  • 5 frames gained in room #5.
  • 27 frames gained in "Back Door" from getting and keeping flight speed earlier.
  • 12 frames gained on Bowser.
In total, I gained 242 frames on the previous run.
Suggested Description & Screenshot:
This is JXQ's minor improvement to the previous run done by flagitious & VIPer7. It uses the same route as before, tweaking levels with more precise flying, better manipulation of fadeout lag, and a couple other small tricks.
The existing screenshot seems fine to me, although it probably needs to be retaken because the area is done a little differently.
Thanks to...
  • jimsfriend, for always giving me tons and tons of ideas for Super Mario World. Good luck with your unassisted small-only run!
  • Fabian, for his continued help with SMW/SDW stuff. Good luck on your current Fabian, the improved 96-exit Fabian of this game.
  • flagitious and VIPer7, for their work on the SMW series and all the discoveries they've made that helped lead up to this point. I don't know what either of you are working on currently, but good luck with it!


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TASVideoAgent
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1072: JXQ's SNES Super Mario World in 10:31.95
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I voted no. I really expected more from you JXQ. This is just a useless video, the "improvement" isn't noticeable, the whole run looks exactly like the old video, and I think they (flagitious and VIPer7) made better stylistic choices. You're better than this, I don't understand why you'd submit a run identical to the existing one. In addition, I have several other small complaints I won't discuss here, for example the submission text is almost literally 400 pages long and just filled with technical mumbo jumbo about things that's not even noticeable. I hope you choose a better project next.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
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Also, I have a quick followup question: I glanced over the submission text and didn't fully understand that "8/5" thing. Could you explain it in detail please, thanks.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Kaz
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Also voted no. I hope you get banned.
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This run is a fluke. I always wondered how JXQ can pump out these runs like that, and now I know. He took a good run barely improved it and removed almost all of the entertainment value that is currently in Viper's + Flag's run. Voting NO, you could try again, but why bother?
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Another No, because you didn't get the Super Missiles early like in your last run. That should have saved at least a minute. Also because you scared me with the mental image of a "96-exit Fabian". I'll never read your submission books again!
m00
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Voting no, since this is apparently Opposite Day.
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Voting Yes, because everyone's pretending to vote No. I think the old run is indeed a bit more entertaining (especially the ghost house), but 4 seconds is a lot. Congratulations!
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Thorough run, thoroughly planned, thorough YES. The man strikes again..
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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That was the biggest affront to the cyborg runs! I held TAB all the way and it was still SLOW! You suck, Mario sucks, and Bisqwit sucks too, because he allowed you to do this huge piece of CRAP! STOP making Fabians or what the heck you call your trash right now! I'm proud to give you a enormous NO! (I wish there was a "NEVER" vote...)
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Bisqwit wrote:
Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
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Oh man. That's getting unridiculous. I can't even think of those posts looking funny 1 month after the movie has been published.
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Bisqwit, I think it's safe to say that most people who try to be funny fail.
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Fabian wrote:
I think it's safe to say that most people who try to be funny fail.
Agreed.
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hey, Bisqwit... have you never heard about "reverse psychology"??
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself. It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success." - Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
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I'm gonna vote yes, and only because of what you did on frame 37616.
nesrocks
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omg! was that the crazy frog? looking again it doesn't look like a frog, it's part of something else, what is it? i'm scared, this was far beyond what i expected. JXQ, you did a marvelous job
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another "duh" vote :)
It's hard to look this good. My TAS projects
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that's frame 37616. looks rather dull and boring to me. Now these are some frames that are interesting and I think would best qualify as the new screenshot: 10996, 15836 and 21152 respectively. in regards to the submission, yes on this because it was quite entertaining and even had some wtf moments (like those shown above).
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YES vote and a star on the demand! great work on this improvement
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I'm just confused...I agree with whoever said some people can't be funny. I will kill opposite day though by saying that it cannot exist under it's own definition. The opposite of opposite day cancels itself out, so bleh. :P I can't vote yet though, I won't have a chance to watch it until like monday. I think it'll be published by then...heh.
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Awesome run. Yes vote. For those wondering what that green thing is, it is actually half of the princesses' face sprite rotated 180 degrees counterclockwise and painted green.
They're off to find the hero of the day...
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there's no such thing as opposite day in brazil and i'm not just saying it! or am i? no! this movie doesn't deserve not funny opposite day pranks, it's awesome and go star!
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Peoples are saying I Voted no, I voted no. Where are no Votes? I see all 23 Yes
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Hey! You JXQed another excellent Fabian in such an inexcusably small amount of time that it just can't get a yes vote from me. Voting no.
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I think the pink-and-white picture would be absolutely brilliant for the image to accompany the movie on the site. I can't wait to see this now.
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