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Posted: 7/17/2011 4:19 PM
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arukAdo
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There is actually a use, scrimpeh found technique, then I found the place where to use for our purpose, for those interrested its scIVzip.smv on the link he provided, it work, and it avoid to wait for a full cycle of the blocks, thats to say, this is likely the biggest improvement that there will be in this movie (this trick is nuts really, megaman style)
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Posted: 7/17/2011 9:52 PM
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Awesome find shrimpster! It would be easier for us that follow your wip to label them more clearer, like v1, v2 etc. Edit: Now I see you guys have cleaned things up. I reckon SCIV-wip2.smv is the latest wip?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/17/2011 9:57 PM
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Nope, last I checked it's SCIV.smv.
Posted: 7/17/2011 10:10 PM
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AngerFist
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Hoooooooly shit! What the hell happened in 4-2?? This is turning out to be one of my favourite tases ever. You guys sure it was the best solution to jump twice at 3-3 at the stairs where the bat was approaching you? The bats ain't hard to manipulate but I guess you have tested all possibilities. Maybe I have too much expectations but I expected the Dragon fight to be shorter, but I know that when I fought it, it had some disgusting long invincibility period once it's twin was down. Edit: I assume 4-4 aint properly dealt with? Cause you didn't hit all candles :P
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/18/2011 8:50 AM
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arukAdo
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Ok so lets get something straight NOW, we dont kill all candles or ennemies, this create extra lag in many cases/places (hint: in 4-4 any kill create lag i saved 30 frames just by avoiding killing anything and not destroying candles), also the original wip DOESNT do this, so its totally pointless middle run to add goals like kill all candles or max score, now this point is clear enought i hope. The dragon fight is faster than the one from Dilman, wich was unmatched before afaik, 1/3 faster than phil movie, you can call it sloppy, whatever angy, yeah you have way too high exceptation because stuff you just sayd is simply _impossible_ (you are irritating when you are saying things like, do this, do that, we are not your waitress dude, either its awesome and your favorite tas, or its wrong and we didnt dealt correctly with that 75# bat or that 29# shit there and here, make your mind otherwise we get contradictory impressions from you, we arent claiming to make THE perfect SCIV movie, but we beat all precedent movies/wip pretty clearly)
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Posted: 7/18/2011 2:36 PM
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arukAdo wrote:
you are irritating when you are saying things like, do this, do that, we are not your waitress dude
Where in the thread did AngerFist say things like "do this" or "do that"?
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Posted: 7/18/2011 6:23 PM
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You aren't a very clever boy are you arukado? When I wrote you didn't hit all candles in 4-4, of course I meant those candles that you can hit without sacrificing frames (lag) and I have mentioned this in irc before.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/18/2011 10:23 PM
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Leaving this here for future reference, as it seems arukAdo isn't too keen on implementing it: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/205960373/spinningroom.smv From what I've understood, lag in this room is caused by several things: — having the chain in free control mode while there are many sprites on the screen; — having an item (like a small heart) in free fall when many other sprites are on the screen (thus it's best to take them while at point-blank, or let fall before skeletons appear); — skeletons breaking out of the graves (sometimes can be circumvented by jumping at a different time or avoiding using the whip). The timing is tricky, but it allows for, say, one of the skeletons being destroyed by the cross pendant without causing any lag. As for the changed damage boost, it was rather intuitive: boosting from higher ground leads to more space covered by moving airborne, which is much faster than walking. I first thought to boost from the bone, but then realized the bone is indeed too high, however the skeleton could be boosted from, as well, and it would still let me get the drumstick, too.
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Posted: 7/20/2011 2:20 PM
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But does it work? A man always can dream, right?
Posted: 7/21/2011 1:14 PM
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AngerFist
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I saw from google that you guys redid from 3-3 (skeleton duplication trick). Did you managed to splice in the rest of the segment?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/21/2011 1:16 PM
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AngerFist wrote:
I saw from google that you guys redid from 3-3 (skeleton duplication trick). Did you managed to splice in the rest of the segment?
Nope. arukAdo's been redoing the movie from that point.
Posted: 7/27/2011 8:12 PM
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I have with utter joy visited your googlepage every single say since I found out that you two are working on this and what a thrill it has been so far. The run feels so much more alive with hitting many enemies as possible, firing a lot of crosses, using your wip. It feels like you are having fun, and that's very important when you make a tas. 8-1 was amazing. If you keep this up, I will definitely vote for that the run gets a well deserved star. Keep going!
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/28/2011 1:17 AM
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I also just checked this out from the google page. Damn awesome WIP so far. A bit sad that it ends in level 9. Want to watch the rest. :D
Posted: 7/28/2011 1:27 AM
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You waited 7 years surely can give us a few more days to finish :D Im in stage9 now, theres a possibility to redo some parts in stage8 but with the "global" timer on plateforms this may not happen (ie useless), stage8 is stupid to tas, well the whole game is amazingly boring/depressive to tas but stage8 especially is pesky. We are 2426 frames ahead at end of 9-1. (for now) 4-4 is still the biggest improvement for a single block so far. (660 frames)
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Posted: 7/28/2011 11:36 PM
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/entering cranky child mode, banging my hands on the table in pure rage, screaming I WANT IT NAU!!!!! ;)
Posted: 7/29/2011 2:41 AM
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I just watched the WIP, and it looks great. However, I have a question. (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere else...) Why are you using the Japanese version of the game? Isn't that against the site rules?
Posted: 7/29/2011 9:06 AM
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dave_dfwm wrote:
I just watched the WIP, and it looks great. However, I have a question. (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere else...) Why are you using the Japanese version of the game? Isn't that against the site rules?
The Japanese version has some graphical changes (most notably blood and various religious symbolism uncensored), which is why we're using it. For the purpose of the run, it really does not make any difference though.
Posted: 7/31/2011 8:44 AM
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AngerFist
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Why does the whip boost trick not work in 9-2?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/31/2011 9:36 AM
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AngerFist wrote:
Why does the whip boost trick not work in 9-2?
Excuse me, where exactly do you mean that?
Posted: 7/31/2011 9:34 PM
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There are a few spots in 9-2 where you used the whip to move upwards (at the stairs and such), was wondering why/if it didn't work there.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/31/2011 9:38 PM
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9-2 is 4 rooms, but i guess you speak of the vertical corridor at end, they are out of reach for the trick (you have to be able to go upward the ring, there you barely reach it with your head) Pretty sure scrimpeh tryed ninja jumps but it wasnt faster
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Posted: 7/31/2011 9:49 PM
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Ah ok. As always, I am greatly enjoying watching every single one of your wips. What I am about to tell you ain't no bullshit but one of tasing dreams is for someone to improve the current published run, which you two are doing a splendid job. I really loved how you managed to find a trick of your own when you jumped over that block in 9-1. Knowing how fast and thorough you seem to work, I expect this to be finished within a month or so. Cheers fellas!
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 7/31/2011 9:51 PM
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Erh, more like tomorow but thx anyway ! Also 4-4 was fully on our own too btw :p
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Posted: 7/6/2012 6:46 PM
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More sights courtesy of reckless zipping in Block 4-4. The last screenshot is the only one in which it is possible to complete the stage without dying. In any other case, you are trapped. Since the glitched worlds can be affected by random input, I can't trust snes9x 1.43's emulation accuracy on these observations, however.
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The glitch of the wall which can be destroyed. http://nicoviewer.net/sm21538215 Can this be used?
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