Would it be possible to take damage from one of the floating platform enemies' bullets by the ladder at the end of D and do the pause/unpause trick to elevate yourself through the small crevice next to the ladder and possibly carry yourself with the pause/unpause trick all the way to the ladder at the top left of E? Or is my understanding of how the "damage elevation" trick works totally off?
Would it be possible to take damage from one of the floating platform enemies' bullets by the ladder at the end of D and do the pause/unpause trick to elevate yourself through the small crevice next to the ladder and possibly carry yourself with the pause/unpause trick all the way to the ladder at the top left of E? Or is my understanding of how the "damage elevation" trick works totally off?
I think it's impossible to activate screen transitions without actually climbing the ladder.
Am hello everyone I new on the site but will I like to ask you something initially I am not the claims to say that I am a good tool assisted speedrunner I would even say that I am more than initial but I made a first tool assisted on megaman 1 without taking damage in a little more than 29 minutes, I know it is null as time but I wondered its could be in the category tool assisted superplay?
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NaruSnake wrote:
Am hello everyone I new on the site but will I like to ask you something initially I am not the claims to say that I am a good tool assisted speedrunner I would even say that I am more than initial but I made a first tool assisted on megaman 1 without taking damage in a little more than 29 minutes, I know it is null as time but I wondered its could be in the category tool assisted superplay?
Well, if you used tools such as slowdown/frame advance/savestates to make it, then obviously it is a tool-assisted superplay, and could be categorized as such.
However, if you meant about submitting it, then don't, because as a first work it's very likely to be suboptimal, and a simple "no damage" isn't going to cut it for a new category. Additionally, one of my first TASes I ever created was a no-damage no-zipping Mega Man 1 TAS, and if I recall correctly, it was roughly 25 minutes long, so there's clearly some improvement to be had.
Or did you mean something else entirely?
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Am hello everyone I new on the site but will I like to ask you something initially I am not the claims to say that I am a good tool assisted speedrunner I would even say that I am more than initial but I made a first tool assisted on megaman 1 without taking damage in a little more than 29 minutes, I know it is null as time but I wondered its could be in the category tool assisted superplay?
Well, if you used tools such as slowdown/frame advance/savestates to make it, then obviously it is a tool-assisted superplay, and could be categorized as such.
However, if you meant about submitting it, then don't, because as a first work it's very likely to be suboptimal, and a simple "no damage" isn't going to cut it for a new category. Additionally, one of my first TASes I ever created was a no-damage no-zipping Mega Man 1 TAS, and if I recall correctly, it was roughly 25 minutes long, so there's clearly some improvement to be had.
Or did you mean something else entirely?
yes I use tools like the savesstaes for the rerecording and the slowdown because of being only the tools which I can be used for the day of today as I begin and than I have average English I have difficulty has to understand how its walk but to return from there on my superplay it is largely improvable I am ready has to divide my run to have opinions of anybody more powerful than me
Your run probably will not be published on TASVideos if it is not well played. Many people TAS Megaman games. If TASers here can make a faster run easily, we would not publish your run. You can share the run in this topic if you want. I think you should not submit it to the workbench, since you think it can be played much better.
I do not think of putting run for the moment in the workbench I wondered right if my run had a category on the site and I test above all of found the person which could help me has to improve me so that one day to be posted little a video official on the site I would post my run in this page for those which will want me advised well and from my with dimensions I will involve myself to do something of more beautiful has to see
I reached in BombManStage the conclusion that acquisition of a DelayMagnetBeamAdapter was impossible.
Execution of DelayObjectGlitch requires 8 x drops items, however, if an drop item increases, the kind of appearing object will be restricted.
The screen end of BombManStage:
use 8 x drop item and use RockBuster , appearing DelayObject=0,5,10,11
4xdrop item and use ThuderBeam ,
appearing DelayObject= 0-0xff
This means that the acquisition by RockBuster is impossible.
I challenged the proof of DelayFFStageClear in an IceMan stage similarly.
I am using ThuderBeam and 4x drop item by IceManStage and proved that DelayFFStageClear is possible. :)
We will be able to save about 1 min.
Probably, next, I need to consider a boss's capture order.
3 plan.
1: IceMan:4xdrop item and ThuderBeam(DelayStageClear) , clear point time(50000)
2:BombMan:8xdrop item and RockBuster(DelayStageClear) , clear point time(50000)
3:BombMan:4xdrop item and ThuderBeam , change arm time(DelayStageClear) + clear point time(50000)
I need to consider the course in which the change of arms does not become slow. :)
Too bad about DelayMagnetBeamAdapter, it could have led to some very interesting strategies.
Very glad to see that there's progress being made to the new movie, keep us updated :)
I challenged the proof of DelayFFStageClear in an IceMan stage similarly.
I am using ThuderBeam and 4x drop item by IceManStage and proved that DelayFFStageClear is possible. :)
We will be able to save about 1 min.
Other stage can use DelayFFStageClear?
Cutman and Elecman ......
Have been identified not?
I also wanted MagnetBeam, because I wants to improve entertainment elements ;)
However, even if I had tried for a long time, I was not able to get it.
DelayFFStageClear is a technique which can use ObjectFF at the appearing place.
ObjectsFF is a special object and appears only within a specific place.
ObjectsFF are actually calls to remap pattern tables of PPU.
If NMI is put in the specific processing of ObjectFF, a mistake will occur.
It is only a specific place of an IceManStage, BombManStage that can use DelayFFStageClear now.
FinalFighter:
Is it possible to acquire magnetbeam with bombman's weapon?
The idea is:
Bombman 8x drop item > Delay stage clear with Rockbuster
reselect bombman stage
Bombman 8x drop item > Change arm Bombman's weapon > Delay magnet beam adapter > Delay Stage clear (Again)
Select Elec man.
Bombman's weapon creates a lot of lag but I don't know how it affects the probability of getting the object that allows magnet beam to appear
just a thought... let me know
It is impossible to acquire a magnet beam in the BombManStage although I did many tries.
Because, when drops items will be 6x over, magnet beam can't appear.
However, we need the drops item of 8x.
(For the throughput which performs DelayObjectGlitch )
And your idea of HyperBomb has many objects. ( Then ,we cannot get a magnet beam)
Now , our true route is BombManStage(DelayStageClear with RockBuster)->ElecMan(with HyperBomb)->IceMan(DelayFFStageClear with ThunderBeam) :)
I need to investigate the DelayObject of reset.
Because, the data of a RAM address may be executed as processing like SMB3 by DelayObject.
I have not investigated yet.
However, I looked at execution of instructions(6502) from the data of RAM address by some DelayObjects with the past.
This is an interesting thing.
It will become interesting if JSR [$XXXX] can be executed.
JumpAdress list of DelayObject.
http://www.yuko2ch.net/rockman/JumpAddressList.txt
I need to investigate DelayObject4B-DelayObject7F.
In other words , I will try to investigate the possibility of "DelayEnding" in BombManStage or IceManStage.
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Happy to hear this is still being worked on!
It would definitely be interesting if the ending could be triggered somehow. I would seriously miss the surreal experience of the current run, though.
It is interesting if these are "0x20"(JSR) or "0x4C"(JMP)-
Example:
If DelayObject55 is appear , $600 $601 $602... executed.
ForExample, If $602(RockBuster1Y) $603(RockBuster2Y) $604(RockBuster3Y) = 4C XX YY then JMP $YYXX.
If $YYXX is the address of game clear , we may get ending.
We need to investigate whether a suitable value can be adjusted.
We can get object DelayObject00-FE easily on an IceManStage. (BombManStage is difficult :P)
