You cant do that on a normal controller unless you config right and left NOT to the D-pad, because its fisically unable to press those directions at same time. Anyway, i recommend using keyboards for timeattack, you usually want all the hotkeys in reach.

Ah, you are using a controller? Then I can imagine that it's impossible to press left and right at the same time. Use the keyboard. The thing is that some emulators ignore left+right input because they are usually played with keyboards, and they try to simulate the effect of a gamepad. If you are using a gamepad you will not have much advantage of having this limitation removed.

technos ice hockey is about as close as you can get to the canceled crash n boys ice challenge...

Thanks for the update Ted Copple

What was that you were saying about being a jackass? To really talk about general techniques for making movies, you should probably discuss it in the forums and not in the thread devoted to the submission. To the untrained eye, this thread looks a lot like the author is a newcomer asking for help, while being arrogant and short-tempered with those who answer. It's a good thing we all know that you're really not a bad guy and have a sincere desire to learn and receive advice. We're all on your side, buddy.

You cant do that on a normal controller unless you config right and left NOT to the D-pad, because its fisically unable to press those directions at same time. Anyway, i recommend using keyboards for timeattack, you usually want all the hotkeys in reach.

Im no good with keyboards. But i can use both a controller and keyboard at the same time. Anyways. You guys have been much helpful. Thank you. UPDATE: Finally i figured out what I was doing wrong with this feature. It seems on the NES emulator, you can set the D-Pad on the controller the exact way you put it on the keyboard so then if i hold right on the controller and start tapping or even pressing left, something different happens. I think working with a controller is much easier than a keyboard.

om, nom, nom... blech, stale!

For the purposes of the Vault is this a sports game?

Depends on what you mean by a sports game. It's set up like Track and Field except with half the events involving punching/kicking your opponents. N minigames based loosely on sports, half combat, half set courses. Between them you can use medals you earned (either by picking them up in previous games or awarded for winning) to buy power ups for the next one. All the combat events have the same 'ringer' team as the last battle in it so that team always wins first or second in them. In fact, you can win the whole thing without actually placing first in a single event just by collecting enough medals. If you choose Crash's team, there's an actual ending.

So this TAS provides a clear ending and is not quite a sports genre. Sounds like Vault material then!

This sync's on fceux2.2 after "Convert FCM..." Needs A added at 42091, 42133, 42217, 42272, 42389, 42469 to scroll through ending. Should I change the time to reflect the added input? 11m 47.833

This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2191] NES Crash 'n' the Boys: Street Challenge "best ending" by GuanoBowl in 11:30.55

Didn't have a chance to watch this before since I'm lazy and reliant on an encode, but I'm fairly sure that quite a lot of time could be saved in this run. Mainly through better RNG manipulation. It looks like the opponents aren't manipulated at all, so he ends up in the head to head always against characters with high health instead of the lower health ones or even depleted HP ones that participate in multiple events. Likewise, I know from experience that the AI can screw up all of the first four jumps in the rooftop run, ending it sooner (and since the one they show is automatically second place, it creates some technically impossible results). Wouldn't surprise me if the AI could've been manipulated a little better on the hammer throw too. And as a side but related note, it won't generate the actual ending, but I'm fairly sure that picking Lincoln instead of Southside would be faster. Artie and Skip are both stronger than Crash, and Wheels is the fastest character in the game. It'd also let you RNG Noise on Southside as an opponent who has the least HP AND worst Def in the game. That's also the Double Dragon team if you're using the Japanese version. ^^

I'm really glad the "Vault" has been implemented so movies like this get an automatic encode and listing. This run may not be perfect, but frankly I find a speedrun of a game like this much more interesting than Sidescrolling Platformer VII: Return of the Son of the Platforming Sidescroller.

I'm fairly sure that quite a lot of time could be saved in this run. Mainly through better RNG manipulation.

Agreed. One thing to consider is the "<!(&/&X!" item, which will drain all health from another character - with proper RNG manipulation, this could make for a huge time saver, especially with Rooftop, Swimming, and Judo. It may even save time in Hammer Throw - I'll admit I've never tried to play Hammer Throw with low health, but if being at 0HP means a character can't get up after a botched throw, then this could be important.

And as a side but related note, it won't generate the actual ending, but I'm fairly sure that picking Lincoln instead of Southside would be faster. Artie and Skip are both stronger than Crash, and Wheels is the fastest character in the game. It'd also let you RNG Noise on Southside as an opponent who has the least HP AND worst Def in the game.

True, but of course you generally want the "best ending" in a TAS :) Even ignoring that, I'm not sure if speed (or HP, but that goes without saying) matters in a TAS. The only two events where speed would come into play are Hurdles and Rooftop - in Hurdles, it only affects acceleration (I might be wrong here, I haven't actually done the RAM search, but I'm pretty sure it's for all intents and purposes an auto-scroller, with speed only determining the positioning of the characters relative to one another - i.e., Zack vs. Dragon (71/70) taking the same amount of time as Spreck vs. Dove (112 each)). Rooftop may be another story, I'm not sure if speed just counts for acceleration or not - if it is only acceleration, it'd only affect the start, since you can get max acceleration with proper polevault dismounts. You may well end up breaking even after considering the additional menu frames. Jefferson might be a better "bad ending" choice, since Clint's increased power might make for quicker Swimming/Judo runs (and Hurdles, relative to Lincoln, if power affects enemy damage from being bashed with hurdle pieces), and selecting Spreck for speed events would be quicker than down-downing to Wheels.

If anybody wants to improve this, here's the Japanese version (US version is a big reskin) about 5 minutes faster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6SBpTtuzkk A ton of time is saved with both the HP reducing item mentioned above and by just zeroing out the HP on the particularly lengthy events instead of finishing them and making up the medals elsewhere.