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Game objectives

  • Emulator used: FCEUX 2.2.3
  • Manipulate luck
  • Abusing game errors
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Uses a Suboptimal character
I improved chatterbox's published [3446] NES Super Mario Bros. 2 "warps, princess only" by chatterbox in 08:23.77 177 frames.

Walkthrough

1-1(44,44)
Use Shyguy glitch.
1-2(11,55)
Get and use carpet more quickly(8 frames), and save another 3 frames in boss fighter.
1-3 4-1 4-2(0,55)
Copy the input.
6-1(9,64)
Save 7 frames when play the sand, and 2 frames in boss fight.
6-2(66,130)
4 frames of a little far flying. When Peach falling, don't press A at first time, and she will fly a little far, because she will fall twice.
62 frames saved in boss fight. This the biggest improvement in this tas. No need higher jump anymore.
6-3(6,136)
I saved 4 frames before boss fight. Because of the frames rule, I must wait boss fire egg, but I have the enough time to choose the best chance. 2 frames saved after the first boss, and I save another 4 frames
7-1(32,168)
I saved 23 frames when climbing, and 9 frames in boss fight.
7-2(9,177)
I cost more than 30 frames to saved 9 lag frames.
This picture show the biggest improvement.
Masterjun: Judging.
Masterjun: Replaced file with a 48 frame improvement.
Masterjun: Great movie! I love all the small optimizations. Accepting to Moons as an improvement to the previous run.
feos: Pub.

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Posted: 2/16/2018 5:08 AM
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TASVideoAgent
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #5828: mtvf1 & chatterbox's NES Super Mario Bros. 2 "princess only" in 08:20.83
Posted: 2/16/2018 9:27 AM
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MarbleousDave
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Princess Peach is awesome! Yes vote!
Posted: 2/16/2018 1:38 PM
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scrimpeh
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This is a really cool improvement to the existing run. I voted yes.
Posted: 2/16/2018 2:10 PM
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chatterbox
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I was not directly involved this project, but it was very impressive. Yes vote!
Posted: 2/16/2018 3:17 PM
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mklip2001
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Nice job! The 6-2 improvement is surprisingly simple, but people missed it for so long. Question: Why doesn't the Peach run use a glitched Shyguy to fight Birdo in 1-1, the way the any% run does?
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Posted: 2/16/2018 5:11 PM
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chatterbox
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mklip2001 wrote:
Question: Why doesn't the Peach run use a glitched Shyguy to fight Birdo in 1-1, the way the any% run does?
The princess has the slowest rate of lifting items; she can't use the "through the floor glitch" that uses bombs. So, in order to reach Birdo's room while holding Shy Guy, you have to wait for the bomb to explode up. According to my past attempt, it was about 120 frames slow than the current run's method.
Posted: 2/16/2018 5:41 PM
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mtvf1
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mklip2001 wrote:
Question: Why doesn't the Peach run use a glitched Shyguy to fight Birdo in 1-1, the way the any% run does?
Post #454154 Thanks for you reply it twice, I really really should test it by myself. I have used only one bomb in my snes run, and I test it in nes version too at that time. But I must wait for burst, then I can use the through floor glitch. I didn't notice chatterbox means burst the wall. This is my simple test. I think I can improve more than 20 frames. Because of the rng and subpixel X, this game is a little hard to edit. I'm not sure I have enough time to fix it. Holpful chatterbox have time to edit movie, too.
Posted: 2/17/2018 5:55 AM
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mtvf1
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http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/45192607393073158 1-1 saved 44 frames with shyguy glitch. Desync on 1-2, because the enemy named snifit fire a ball and cause some lag. Edit: update to 6-2. desynce anywhere, near broken. I fix an 1 frame error after 1-1 boss fight, now I only get 1 more lag in 1-2. http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/45196919207382757
Posted: 2/18/2018 9:55 AM
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mtvf1
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This is the final file. 48 frames improved. I lose 1 lag frames in 1-2. In boss fight of 7-1, I saved 2 frames. When I edit the movie, I keep the same character X subpixel, but still desync. I have to redo it, and find I can catch the item 1 frames later(peach is slower when take this item), so I can near boss quickily. In 7-2, I saved 1 more lag. Use the old way to kill the eagle, so I can got the better X subpixel of Wart, save the last 2 frames. It's so hard to edit movie. The game's subpixel has annoyed me. I don't want to do it again. If someone can make a youtube link, I will replace the nico's. I find this eagle 128HP glitch. This glitch is similar to Wart glitch has been posted by Kirkq Post #222666. 128HP glitch simple encode with lua. And I find this Wart glitch still work in snes version. So my this published tas [3634] SNES Super Mario All-Stars: Super Mario Bros. 2 by mtvf1 in 07:19.91 can be saved a lot of.
Posted: 2/20/2018 1:17 AM
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mklip2001
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The eagle glitch is really funny, though I don't think it's going to save time ;-) Good job with the improvements!
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
Posted: 2/23/2018 9:16 AM
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [3640] NES Super Mario Bros. 2 "warps, princess only" by mtvf1 & chatterbox in 08:20.83
Posted: 3/21/2018 3:11 AM
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ViruseReturns
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Hello, this tas was great! After doing some experimentation I was able to get the potion skip from the first cactus. Not sure if this will save time at all because of birdo! https://clips.twitch.tv/MotionlessDelightfulTubersFUNgineer