Doom 2 Kamasutra in 9:37.
This TAS was finished in 06 aug 2015.
  • Aims for in-game time instead of real time
    • Contains speed/entertainment trade-offs
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Uses death to save time
  • Heavy glitch abuse
  • Heavy luck manipulation
  • Unofficial "DLC"
This run uses Skill 4, Ultra-Violence. This is the most common skill level used in the Doom speedrunning and TAS community.

Recorded with

GLBoom-Plus 2.5.0.6 Beta / Doom Replay Editor 2.0 custom & XDRE 2.06

Ksutra wad can be downloaded here - [dead link removed]

Playback:

1. The original Doom 2 v1.9. Use the following command line: "doom2.exe -file ksutra.wad -playdemo ksdq-937.lmp"
2. Prboom 2.2.3 (or later version): "prboom.exe -iwad doom2.wad -file ksutra.wad -playdemo ksdq-937.lmp"
3. Eternity engine: "Eternity.exe -iwad doom2.wad -file ksutra.wad -playdemo ksdq-937.lmp"

Quick level by level comments

For the sake of saving time and space - monsters were manipulated in every level.

Map 01 - Into the Underground

"Death slide" trick is introduced. After dying player's height is significantly reduced; it allows to "roll" through low-height vertical gaps.

Map 02 - The Hidden Engine

AV jump straight to the exit teleport.

Map 03 - Mr.Adolf Kill You!

RJ and DS tricks were used in a combo to fly over the gap and roll under the bars straight into the exit.

Map 04 - Water Base

DS through the window and straight onto the teleport. RNG is manipulated to receive maximum damage.

Map 05 - Klondike

Specific movement/coordinates allows the player to squeeze through. This is similar to the void glide trick that was used in UD e2m6. Step jump trick is used at the end of this level.

Map 06 - Research Complex

Elevator is used to jump through the window into the final area.

Map 07 - Colosseum

RNG is manipulated to deal good damage. Button is pressed from a specific angle. Cacodemon is tricked to fly onto the teleport in order to prevent cyberdemon's teleportation.

Map 08 - Time Is Tickin' Out

DS straight into the exit.

Map 09 - The Holocaust

Well-performed wallrun trick allows to gain enough speed and simply run over the gap. Player's HP is reduced in order to die with only one av attack in the next level.

Map 10 - To Be or Not To Be...

AV jump + DS straight into the exit.

Map 11 - Execution

Neat'n'quick movements helped a lot in this one.

Map 12 - King Arena

"Thing run" trick is used to reach the final area.

Map 13 - The Holocaust II

AV jump straight to the exit.

Map 14 - Dog Eat Dog

Precise character positioning is needed to run over the gap and reach the final area. It followed by RJ combo: first through the window and second straight to the exit.

Map 15 - Miss Sporty

No tricks here, just neat movements in narrow corridors and usual mob manipulation.

Map 16 - Leeds Castle

Two AV jumps here: the first one to reach the middle section of the level, the second one straight into the exit.

Map 17 - Cyber Machine

Amazing combo here: double rocket boost (one from the boss, another from me) straight into the teleport, another to skip "teleportation stuck", followed by perfect glide with immediate wallrun and final RB at the very end.

Map 18 - The Train Is Approaching

Precise player's positioning is needed to run over the "red gates". The door was opened from above. RB to gain speed and make 12sec possible.

Map 19 - Natural

Precise character's positioning is needed to "step jump" into the window. Then RJ to the final area.

Map 20 - Traps

Two RBs to reach some areas faster. After the second teleportation with certain movement angle the middle part of the level can be reached via sr50 jump trick. "Invulner" is obviously needed for all upcoming tricks. Triple AV jump to jump over the wall. After a short while another one in combination with RB to reach the final area. And two carefully placed RBs more at the very end.

Map 21 - Diablo's Heart

Double AV jump to reach the final area.

Map 22 - Fire Play

Precise positioning of the player allows to: activate the switch through the fence, pick up both yellow and blue keys w/o lowering the pedestals, upon entering the building activate another switch through the floor and push the button (two of them) through the enemy.

Map 23 - A Little Big Massacre

In this map there's a yellow door which leads to the exit. Only one side of this door requires the key to open it; the other one is unlocked. There's also a well-hidden cyberdemon behind it. Carefully aimed ssg shot awakes the cyber and manipulate him to open the door for me.

Map 24 - The Gift From GOTT

This map requires a huge amount of luck manipulation simply to stay alive. AV jump is used to reach the blue key faster. Shooting certain barrels at the very end allows the level to end faster.

Map 25 - Cow Face

ClumsyDoomer did this one. RNG is manipulated to make cyber shoot as soon as possible. The blast, along side with perfect player's position, allows to skip teleportation linedef and exit the level.

Map 26 - Kill Bill

RNG is manipulated to deal good damage and move monsters out of the way. Precise positioning of the player allows jump through the window and reach the final area.

Map 27 - Stairway to Heaven

Neat movements. Precise character's position alongside with "thing slide" trick allows to grab the red key w/o lowering the pedestal.

Map 28 - Hard Target

Two rockets to clear some space in the final area. RB to the teleport, then RJ to the exit.

Map 29 - I'm Just a DOOM Addict

AV jump through the window (ClumsyD helped me a bit with this one) to skip the beginning area. RJ through another window to skip another chunk of the level. Mob in the tunnel were manipulated to move out of the way. Cyber was pushed via the BFG charge to open the final door. The final boss (Romero head) can be reached from a specific position. RNG is manipulated to kill him as fast as possible.

Map 30 - <|>

Two routes here. I chose the right one 'cause it slightly faster. Shooting the barrel awakes the Cyberdemons. Using the BFG and starting to charge it in the previous room prevents this event from happening.
MapTimeKillsItemsSecrets
Map 01 - Into the Underground0:29.9725%0%0%
Map 02 - The Hidden Engine0:04.461%0%0%
Map 03 - Mr.Adolf Kill You!0:03.940%0%100%
Map 04 - Water Base0:03.940%0%100%
Map 05 - Klondike0:15.370%33%50%
Map 06 - Research Complex0:07.946%20%0%
Map 07 - Colosseum1:07.9425%5%50%
Map 08 - Time Is Tickin' Out0:05.200%0%100%
Map 09 - The Holocaust0:12.602%0%0%
Map 10 - To Be or Not To Be...0:02.910%0%0%
Map 11 - Execution0:19.602%19%100%
Map 12 - King Arena0:05.776%0%0%
Map 13 - The Holocaust II0:07.460%0%50%
Map 14 - Dog Eat Dog0:07.911%4%100%
Map 15 - Miss Sporty0:43.8020%4%100%
Map 16 - Leeds Castle0:18.805%9%33%
Map 17 - Cyber Machine0:36.975%25%100%
Map 18 - The Train Is Approaching0:12.860%5%0%
Map 19 - Natural0:18.433%28%50%
Map 20 - Traps0:34.9721%20%100%
Map 21 - Diablo's Heart0:13.370%16%50%
Map 22 - Fire Play0:37.5420%40%0%
Map 23 - A Little Big Massacre0:08.661%0%100%
Map 24 - The Gift From GOTT0:34.5734%33%0%
Map 25 - Cow Face0:00.970%12%0%
Map 26 - Kill Bill0:31.8919%40%0%
Map 27 - Stairway to Heaven0:47.9718%27%100%
Map 28 - Hard Target0:08.912%9%0%
Map 29 - I'm Just a DOOM Addict0:37.514%6%100%
Map 30 - <I>0:16.800%14%100%
Total9:37

Truncated: Since no one else has claimed it, I guess I'm judging this too. So: judging!

Truncated: Sorry for taking so long to make a decision.
I have verified that this movie syncs on original Doom, has no illegal input, and that there are no faster movies.
Kama Sutra (and any WAD not released/condoned by iD) are considered hacks/user modified games, and cannot be published in Vault. This movie demonstrates a large amount of rocket boosting, Arch-vile jumping, death slides, and some picking up objects through walls and getting monsters to open locked doors. Perhaps owing to this, it appears to be a popular speed running WAD. On the other hand, the level design is wonky (nukage floors without damage, stacked enemies, no consistent theme, odd music, naked woman, etc.) and votes have been mixed.
This could have gone either way, but in the end I have decided to accept it.
feos: Taking this bastard to the pub.
feos: Movie with extended input userfiles/info/68378860645255321


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with some help (m25, m29) from ClumsyDoomer.
So Mr./Mrs. ClumsyDoomer doesn't have their name up there because?
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+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
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Spikestuff wrote:
Goes to YouTube
with some help (m25, m29) from ClumsyDoomer.
So Mr./Mrs. ClumsyDoomer doesn't have their name up there because?
He refused after all.
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Should I? I thought my role was unimportant. I just edited a bunch of tics, so I refused when Akse asked me if I want to be listed as a co-author.
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Clumsydoomer wrote:
Should I? I thought my role was unimportant. I just edited a bunch of tics, so I refused when Akse asked me if I want to be listed as a co-author.
Ok, fine.
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Good run, even if the WAD itself seemed to have a bit too much of "let's put a ton of enemies because we can". Those Arch-vile jumps and rocket boosts were sick, and I never thought I'd see "Uses death to save time" in a Doom run. Voting yes. Reading the Doomwiki, it says the Kids route of the final stage is supposed to have 8 Cyberdemons attacking you, but they didn't seem to appear in the run. What was up with that?
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KennyMan666 wrote:
What was up with that?
They were not awoken. I'll explain the mechanism: These barrels near the teleporters were put there in order to awake cyberdemons - when player shoots / punches them / etc, cyberdemons hear that and start walking around somewhere outside the map. When a certain linedef is crossed, they will be released and get teleported to that area. But if you shoot BEFORE teleporting to that room with barrels (BFG shoots slowly enough), cyberdemons will not hear that and won't be able to teleport until you awake them. EDIT:
KennyMan666 wrote:
and I never thought I'd see "Uses death to save time" in a Doom run.
Actually there are many of them (outside TASVideos), including that Plutonia run I submitted.
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sexy WAD, sexy TAS, yes vote
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That music was absolutely hideous (except, perhaps, for the levels that used original Doom music.) It felt more appropriate for some wacky SNES platformer than Doom.
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Hey, Akse, I think the music was too loud compared to the sound effects. Maybe lower the music by one step for your future videos? Voting yes!
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Clumsydoomer wrote:
KennyMan666 wrote:
What was up with that?
They were not awoken. I'll explain the mechanism: These barrels near the teleporters were put there in order to awake cyberdemons - when player shoots / punches them / etc, cyberdemons hear that and start walking around somewhere outside the map. When a certain linedef is crossed, they will be released and get teleported to that area. But if you shoot BEFORE teleporting to that room with barrels (BFG shoots slowly enough), cyberdemons will not hear that and won't be able to teleport until you awake them.ere are many of them (outside TASVideos), including that Plutonia run I submitted.
Thanks.
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Hey, Akse, I think the music was too loud compared to the sound effects. Maybe lower the music by one step for your future videos? Voting yes!
It wasn't intentional. I forgot to lower down the volume, sorry.
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I keep hoping to see a run of stock Doom 2 with some of these techniques but this is definitely an awesome run. Yes vote from me. While I agree the music volume was a bit higher than it probably should have been I enjoyed the soundtrack - I've always appreciated the difficulty in recreating songs purely in MIDI. Great work!
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Warp wrote:
That music was absolutely hideous (except, perhaps, for the levels that used original Doom music.) It felt more appropriate for some wacky SNES platformer than Doom.
This is one of the reasons I chose to vote No. Another was... well? This wad was absolutely atrocious! Weak maps, some overlittered with enemies with no real concern for gameplay [And I have played and watched numerous Slaughter maps that do it right... this was NOT one of them]. The only saving grace was literally some of the interesting tricks and Archie jumps were actually really awesome... but unfortunately the quality of everything else [outside of your control per se, except you did choose this wad] just steamrolled over a potential Meh. Now, this is not to say skills weren't there. It was obvious you do have excellent skills and did your best to make this entertaining, but overall... poor wad choice, imho. Now... if it was something like the recently [few months ago] released awesomeness that was Valiant? That would have been an entirely different story. Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
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I do agree with a few peoples in here that the music was kinda of horrible, but I noticed some Duke 3D music rip off and kinda made me giggle. Tho having more iconic music from Doom 1/2 would had been a plus. Yes vote for being entertaining enough for me as i didn't skip anything lol!
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I believe the music choices are intentionally stupid and humorous. It is called Kama Sutra, but nobody complains about the name. I guess Kama Sutra and demon splatter fit together perfectly in people's minds.
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Aqfaq: If the title screen and Adult route of the final stage would have been part of the run, people might have had things to say! Page for the final stage on the Doom Wiki - NSFW inasmuch as you can render NSFW content using only the Doom engine. Click at own risk. "It is probably the most infamous map from the megawad, having contributed the bulk of its notoriety, due to the major adult overtones in the final battle where the player confronts a giant, naked female body."
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BTW, I think 'Cyberdemon (also AV) can open "coloured" doors.' is not quite accurate. The Cyberdemon is on the unlocked side, and any other monster in that place could have done the same thing. The Doom 2 map27 trick where the AV opens the door while being on the locked side is different.
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Enjoyed the run, voted Yes. Quick question: if this is a megawad, why is it just a branch rather than a separate game? Or is there something I'm not getting?
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EgixBacon wrote:
Quick question: if this is a megawad, why is it just a branch rather than a separate game? Or is there something I'm not getting?
You still need the Doom 2 wad as the IWAD and use this as the PWAD. "Megawad" is just a community term that means it contains at least 15 maps. So it's a map pack for Doom 2, and not its own game.
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i was Skeptic at first seeing the name but some fun levels (coloseum and Kill bill) and some "light music" compared to other WADS made it enjoyable to watch...; yes vote
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I recognize most of the music, myself. Some of it was from Rise of the Triad. And some Duke 3D. The gameplay itself is fast and aggressive.
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KennyMan666 wrote:
What was up with that?
Fredrik wrote:
BTW, I think 'Cyberdemon (also AV) can open "coloured" doors.' is not quite accurate. The Cyberdemon is on the unlocked side, and any other monster in that place could have done the same thing.
Fixed.
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The Doom 2 map27 trick where the AV opens the door while being on the locked side is different.
What is it?
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Am I correct in understanding that this WAD is famous because of the nude geometry in the final level? The level design does not look to be anything special otherwise. In fact pretty bad in some places...
Akse wrote:
Fredrik wrote:
The Doom 2 map27 trick where the AV opens the door while being on the locked side is different.
What is it?
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Monsters_open_locked_doors The check to open doors (or pick up items) is done before ejecting the object out of the wall. Therefore fast monsters can open thin doors from the wrong side. Same thing as player picking up keycards through thin walls.
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Am I correct in understanding that this WAD is famous because of the nude geometry in the final level? The level design does not look to be anything special otherwise. In fact pretty bad in some places...
Indeed. It's a naked chick plus the name of the WAD plus the fact that there are a lot of horny teenage boys on the internet. The DOOM Wiki states that these "adult overtones" contributed the bulk of this WAD's notoriety. Given that the DOOM wiki lists 543 'notable' WADs, and the DoomWorld site lists about 4000 WADs total, perhaps we should take a close look at our inclusion criteria. According to our Movie Rules, hacks and homebrews should be "high quality and notable". There's no question that this WAD is notable, but is it high quality? Surely the site isn't going to accept just any hack that gets a lot of google hits?
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Radiant wrote:
According to our Movie Rules, hacks and homebrews should be "high quality and notable". There's no question that this WAD is notable, but is it high quality? Surely the site isn't going to accept just any hack that gets a lot of google hits?
You Have to Burn the Rope, among others only notable for how bad they are, begs to differ, most unfortunately.