Posted: 5/8/2015 9:45 PM
Post subject: What do you think about TAS versus Hack?
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Genisto
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What I mean is a Tool Assisted Speedrun with some hacking with the Hex Editor in real time while recording the video. Did you ever see Mario casting a spell, or a Goomba that can jump, or run faster than Mario in Super Mario Bros 1 on the Nes? In the following video, anything could happen at anytime and the final combat with Bowser is something to not miss: Link to video If you love this, I will tell you how to do this. If you love what I do, I'm currently working on a new game since the last 2 years. This is on Steam and I'm at around 2000 YES votes away of the top 50 ranked games on Greenlight. Mages of the Endless World http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=438374785
Posted: 5/8/2015 9:54 PM
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Noxxa
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Hilarious video, great effort. Would love to know how you did this. Looks like it was a lot of work.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 5/8/2015 10:54 PM
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I'm impressed. Nice work!
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Posted: 5/8/2015 11:11 PM
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Looks more like a ROM Corruption from the Real-Time Corruptor Mod on BizHawk.
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Posted: 5/9/2015 7:41 AM
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Warp
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This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
Posted: 5/9/2015 8:38 AM
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cool video it, made me think of this year agdq presentation your concept kinda remind me of battle block theatre or minecraft, I hope you get your greenlight...
Posted: 5/9/2015 2:26 PM
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Hey, I did this first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVM-ZwZvQqQ
Posted: 5/9/2015 2:30 PM
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ALAKTORN wrote:
Hey, I did this first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVM-ZwZvQqQ
Genisto did this already half a year even before that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MxW9hSi1ng
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 5/9/2015 6:18 PM
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This reminds me of Xkeeper's "corruption" streams, only quite better.
Posted: 5/9/2015 6:38 PM
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Genisto
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Thanks for your comments. I will post a video tutorial at the beginning of the week on how to make a TAS versus Hack and I will post a new video about an other hacked game: Dragon Warrior. It's much easier and faster to make it on a Nes game, than on a GBA game, because of the length of the memory, but it's still possible to make it on a game of any system emulated with the following features: a Hex Editor, movie recorder, AVI recorder and a Frame Counter displayed.
Posted: 5/9/2015 7:15 PM
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Holy shit, it's Genisto! It feels weird seeing you posting after several years of seeing your nickname stamped all over the site. Welcome back. :) Anyway, that video is really neat. I like the concept and look forward to watching future videos in the same vein.
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Posted: 5/10/2015 6:45 AM
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Impressive work! Ending is great! It would be great if this format of TASing will be acceptable for Moons.
TASing is like making a film: only the best takes are shown in the final movie.
Posted: 5/10/2015 11:32 AM
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Dimon12321 wrote:
It would be great if this format of TASing will be acceptable for Moons.
No.
Warning: Might glitch to credits I will finish this ACE soon as possible (or will I?)
Posted: 5/10/2015 11:34 AM
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Dimon12321 wrote:
It would be great if this format of TASing will be acceptable for Moons.
Don't count on it. These runs are fun, but they violate the fundamental TAS principle of not externally modifying the game while playing.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 5/10/2015 7:45 PM
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Masterjun wrote:
Dimon12321 wrote:
It would be great if this format of TASing will be acceptable for Moons.
No.
Masterjun can do it without hex editor.
Why do we call it saving frames if we only plan to get rid of them?
Posted: 5/11/2015 4:03 PM
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Trioct wrote:
Masterjun wrote:
Dimon12321 wrote:
It would be great if this format of TASing will be acceptable for Moons.
No.
Masterjun can do it without hex editor.
Now I'm imagining a SMW ACE TAS where mario runs at double speed, is invincible, and can shoot lasers from his eyes.
Posted: 5/11/2015 5:04 PM
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Genisto
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Here is my new TAS vs Hack: Dragon Warrior Link to video The how to do video is also done: Link to video My next TAS vs Hack will be Double Dragon II. I will try to make some new skills.
Posted: 5/11/2015 7:05 PM
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To be honest, just using a Lua script for all this would be like 100 times easier...
Warning: Might glitch to credits I will finish this ACE soon as possible (or will I?)
Posted: 5/15/2015 4:57 PM
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Here is my Double Dragon II hacked: The main character has new skills, can cast spells and can move faster. Link to video Next video: Super Mario Bros 2
Posted: 5/23/2015 5:57 AM
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Genisto
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Here is the part 1 of SMB2. In this video you will see one of the hardest boss in video games: The mouse with his bombs hardcore version. Birdo has rapid fire with his eggs. The whole level keeps changing at any time. Link to video
Posted: 5/26/2015 9:12 PM
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Genisto
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SMB3 hack Tank Level at ULTIMATE SPEED!! Here is an extra hack. This time it's a single level playthrough in Super Mario Bros 3 SNES version. The first tank level in World 8. The auto scrolling of the level increase over time. Have you tried to past this level at 12x speed? Link to video
Masterjun wrote:
To be honest, just using a Lua script for all this would be like 100 times easier...
Thanks for the advice. I used the Lua script for this hack.
Posted: 5/27/2015 1:30 AM
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Ehh, to be honest that one dragged on too long. And the fact that every single "pass" was a 1-Up farming session meant there wasn't much variety. It would've been nice to see Mario navigate one of the hyperspeed sections without touching a single enemy, maybe.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:19 PM
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Genisto wrote:
SMB3 hack Tank Level at ULTIMATE SPEED!!
At end of video was pretty funny speed, thanks for your work.