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Posted: 1/25/2007 12:10 PM

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Mitjitsu

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Seemed fine to me, you best move on. BTW, the cage star I did WF can be improved by at least 6 frames, unfortunatley when I tried to edit it in, it caused a desync in Bowser#1

Posted: 1/25/2007 2:25 PM

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mr_roberts_z

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Cool. What's next, PSS or WF? (Sorry for all the posts)

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Posted: 1/26/2007 7:25 PM

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mr_roberts_z

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Thanks...but I'm restarting JRB, this time trying to match/beat FODA's framecounts. I watched it again right after watching FODA's full run, and I see how much difference a few frames can make. I also noticed that most of the swimming was really sloppy and not direct enough. It'll probably take me longer, but ultimately, the run will look a lot better (and be alot faster).

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Posted: 1/27/2007 6:41 AM

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mr_roberts_z

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Well, I've restarted the run, and so far, for the first star, I beat FODA by 2 frames, and for the second star, by almost 40. The swimming is very direct, but I don't think the strokes are perfect, so should I start over? BTW, I know I've been flooding the thread with all the posts, so I'll post all the JRB updates on this post.

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Posted: 1/27/2007 9:55 AM

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KDR_11k

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I think you shouldn't have started with JRB :P

Posted: 1/27/2007 10:53 AM

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Mukki

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I still think JRB is best the only other real method would be BoB, CCM, WF, JRB, PSL x 2 then the Wing Cap course (not doable in this run). Mr_roberts_z - There's absolutely nothing wrong with making posts when you are trying to get something right and are looking for help. Take as long as you need to get it right *thumbs up*

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Posted: 1/27/2007 1:42 PM

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KDR_11k

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Yes, it's the best pathwise but probably much harder to optimize than many other levels which might be a bit discouraging.

Posted: 1/27/2007 3:51 PM

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Mr_roberts_z - There's absolutely nothing wrong with making posts when you are trying to get something right and are looking for help. Take as long as you need to get it right *thumbs up*

Cool, thanks.

Yes, it's the best pathwise but probably much harder to optimize than many other levels which might be a bit discouraging.

Yeah, I........seriously, seriously hate JRB...I'm gonna spend hours and hours optimizing it, and then most people will just skip over it. Oh well....Well, I'll go by general opinion: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3595/SUPER%20MARIO%2064%20%28USA%29%20-%20MRROBERTSZ%20-%20CCC%20TAS.m64. Look good enough to go ahead?

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Posted: 1/27/2007 5:44 PM

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bkDJ

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definitely

Posted: 1/29/2007 1:29 AM

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mr_roberts_z

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I still don't think that the strokes are good enough and even, so I'm restarting the level one last time. Now I see why this level is so hard.

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Posted: 1/30/2007 4:26 AM

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Well, I was exprimenting a little more, and I found that it is possible to do the pillar trick without getting any coins, which makes JRB... *sigh* ...even harder. Well, at least it'll look cooler. EDIT: Well, seems like starting over ten times paid off; for the fist star...I just beat FODA by 107 frames, getting a time of 55 seconds. Hopefully I'll get similar results from the Eel star. EDIT 2: I guess so...just beat FODA by 15 frames on the Eel star. Hopefully this will keep up. Heh heh... EDIT 3: Just finished the Ocean Cave star; since FODA did this star with the 100 coin route, I had to use Curtis Bright's site to find the fastest time, which I beat by almost three seconds. EDIT 4: And...just did "Through the Jet Stream, and beat FODA by 7 frames. Now, onto the pillar star... EDIT 5: The pillar star is proving to be harder than I anticipated, and I expect to have the star done by next June.

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Posted: 1/30/2007 11:47 PM

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Well, I was exprimenting a little more, and I found that it is possible to do the pillar trick without getting any coins, which makes JRB... *sigh* ...even harder. Well, at least it'll look cooler. EDIT: Well, seems like starting over ten times paid off; for the fist star...I just beat FODA by 107 frames, getting a time of 55 seconds. Hopefully I'll get similar results from the Eel star. EDIT 2: I guess so...just beat FODA by 15 frames on the Eel star. Hopefully this will keep up. Heh heh... EDIT 3: Just finished the Ocean Cave star; since FODA did this star with the 100 coin route, I had to use Curtis Bright's site to find the fastest time, which I beat by almost three seconds. EDIT 4: And...just did "Through the Jet Stream, and beat FODA by 7 frames. Now, onto the pillar star... EDIT 5: The pillar star is proving to be harder than I anticipated, and I expect to have the star done by next June. EDIT 6: I did it...got the Pillar star coinless-shipless. I didn't compare it to FODA's yet, but frankly, it doesn't matter. I don't care if I could've saved 200 frames in JRB, I'm NOT restarting it again. So, here's my first major WIP, comments and suggestions are appreciated. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/3635/SUPER%20MARIO%2064%20%28USA%29%20-%20MRROBERTSZ%20-%20CCC%20TAS%20-%20All%20JRB%20PERFECT.m64 Enjoy.

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Posted: 1/30/2007 11:49 PM

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TheFrigz

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I cannot WAIT to watch it, it should be great, well done Mr_Robertz_Z.

Posted: 1/31/2007 12:44 AM

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SilentSlayers

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Wow! That was crazy, You did the pillar trick coinless!? This run when finished is gonna be a good watch

Posted: 1/31/2007 10:38 PM

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mr_roberts_z

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Only two comments? I guess everyone's paying attention to the OoT run. Oh well, I'll get started on PSS.

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Posted: 1/31/2007 10:40 PM

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asteron

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Well you also have to factor in that JRB isnt a very popular level :) I think it looks great so far though. I am really looking forward to this.

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Posted: 2/1/2007 12:30 AM

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looked great. my only complaint was when you entered the JRB room, right after BLJing through the door, you're facing backwards, and it takes like a second for you to turn around and start long jumping towards the painting. besides that, looked real sharp.

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Posted: 2/1/2007 1:08 AM

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I think that's because Mario has to somehow shake off all the backward momentum he has stored up. If you BLJ for a bit like that, you might find it hard to turn around too. :) WHOA. Your swimming is so good in this movie! You get to the Plunder in the Sunken Ship star before you can even get the star! This WIP took a while to make, but I think it was worth it.

Posted: 2/1/2007 1:47 AM

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ZeXr0

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I would have watch it, but I don't have the emulator setup :s

Posted: 2/1/2007 6:25 AM
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Thanks a lot for the comments... I'll post all the updates until the next WIP on this post like I did before. EDIT 1: Just finished PSS, getting 12.6 seconds like before. I didn't bother to compare it to FODA's, because there's no way it's any more than a frame or two longer, because of the need to avoid the coins at the beginning. Onto WF.

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Posted: 2/1/2007 6:27 AM

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I've already given you comments on IRC :). It's beautiful. I really like this idea. Keep it up!

Posted: 2/1/2007 2:20 PM

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keep up the good work. and in the future, use TEXT to make links shorter.

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Posted: 2/1/2007 4:26 PM

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Mukki

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I thought this looked pretty sound; only two points -- 1) It seems as if you are still 1 frame slower than AKA at getting to the castle, but don't redo for that frame or you'll never finish this, I'm just saying. 2) In plunder the sunken ship you seem to get stuck behind the chest for a small instant. That's really all, neither matter. Continue, please.

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Posted: 2/1/2007 4:43 PM

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