Oh goodie. Oh boy. Oh, shoot me now.

Teh Stuff:

  • Bios: SCPH1001 (NTSC bios)
  • Hardest Difficulty
  • Goes for in-game time
  • Goes for speed instead of entertainment aka going for Vault - If people find this entertaining then I'm pleased and I should shut up
  • lua used + created

Note:

When you're looking at the round times you will see spike times which means it's higher than 1.68, this is due to changing the input as it's either due to the AI charging or AI ducking during the slap or that the AI hits when Spinning Harakiri.

Round times:

ChallengerRound 1Round 2Total Time
Nina1.681.683.36
Michelle1.691.683.37
Lei2.981.694.67
Jack-21.701.683.38
Jun1.732.123.85
King1.721.653.37
Paul1.701.713.41
Kunimitsu1.721.723.44
Kazuya1.681.683.36
Devil2.091.683.77
Total18.6917.2935.98

Placed as Frame times:

ChallengerRound 1Round 2Frame Time
Nina101101202
Michelle101101202
Lei179101280
Jack-2102101203
Jun104127231
King10399202
Paul102103205
Kunimitsu103103206
Kazuya101101202
Devil125101226
Total112110382159

Quick Rundown on previous TASes:

The First submission used Law and had an in-game time of 1'43"81
The next submission used King which had an in-game time of 1'25"93
The third run (which was not submitted) used Yoshimitsu with an in-game time of 50"28.
This is a 35"98 TAS which uses the fastest moves of Yoshimitsu to finish of the fights.

Possible Improvements (with the joys of RNG):

  • During the first round with Lei it's possible to finish him in 147 frames (32 frame improvement) but all the frames are lost when you reach the first round of King.
  • Round 2 of Jun was only forced as there was no way to hit her faster.
  • Somehow it's possible to finish a round in 99 frames... which cannot be replicated anywhere else.
  • Shark Attack is the fastest move BUT when done on hard mode it's the easiest move to avoid.
  • Please, please, please, please, PLEASE! if you think you can improve on my errors complete the whole TAS it's a painful TAS to complete as it takes a long time to do.

Special thanks:

Cooljay for telling me to submit it, even if I doubted on the time.
FractalFusion for providing a Nico version.

Suggested Screenshots:

4703, 5397, 6684, 8327 (if allowed) 8761
I'm sorry if I disappointed anyone except for true.
By the way I voted meh

Noxxa: Judging.
Noxxa: While the run is improvable at a few points, it's already known an improvement is being worked on. For the mean time, this run is (just barely) good enough for publication. Accepting to the Vault.


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Spikestuff wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
If Spikestuff and N?K are working on an improvement, it's perhaps better to cancel this submission and wait for the improvement to be done. Though if that improvement will take a really long time, I guess this submission may be published although we know it's improvable. I'm not sure, it's a bit of a fringe case.
I was actually considering cancelling it but the improvement is definitely going to take a long time to do, I don't know how long. We've spent more then a few days doing fight 2 due to the set RNG and we're still doing that fight.
Doesn't answer the question: what if we publish this attempt?
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Doesn't answer the question: what if we publish this attempt?
Moth and I mentioned that it would take time to improve... and if this is published it has a benchmark... similar to this, this and well this.
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Benchmark?
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2532] PSX Tekken 2 by Spikestuff in 02:20.63
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YouTube a place where people don't check what they're checking into. This and SoulCal 2 have been given shit, the description needs to be altered so views can understand that this is deliberately not giving 2 shits about entertainment, just like the GBA Tekken. Do I know what to write exactly? Nope.
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Spikestuff wrote:
YouTube a place where people don't check what they're checking into. This and SoulCal 2 have been given shit, the description needs to be altered so views can understand that this is deliberately not giving 2 shits about entertainment, just like the GBA Tekken. Do I know what to write exactly? Nope.
You expect YouTube viewers to care about what the description says? Changing the run description won't make the run any less uninteresting for them. And let's face it, fighting game speedruns that don't care about entertainment value are overall not very well liked runs.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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And let's face it, fighting game speedruns that don't care about entertainment value are overall not very well liked runs.
Eh, that's fine, I called someone out on SoulCaln who decided to shut up on Tekken.
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Mothrayas wrote:
Spikestuff wrote:
YouTube a place where people don't check what they're checking into. This and SoulCal 2 have been given shit, the description needs to be altered so views can understand that this is deliberately not giving 2 shits about entertainment, just like the GBA Tekken. Do I know what to write exactly? Nope.
You expect YouTube viewers to care about what the description says?
If that's your attitude, why do you even have youtube descriptions? - - - They are written for each submission, so clearly they're considered to have worth, so why not make them good descriptions?
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Patashu wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Spikestuff wrote:
YouTube a place where people don't check what they're checking into. This and SoulCal 2 have been given shit, the description needs to be altered so views can understand that this is deliberately not giving 2 shits about entertainment, just like the GBA Tekken. Do I know what to write exactly? Nope.
You expect YouTube viewers to care about what the description says?
If that's your attitude, why do you even have youtube descriptions? - - - They are written for each submission, so clearly they're considered to have worth, so why not make them good descriptions?
Technically, descriptions are written for site publications of published submissions, not for YouTube. YouTube's descriptions are just copied from the site publications. Also, I'm mostly referring to the more stereotypical YouTube viewer who does indeed not read YouTube descriptions, or more specifically, does not care about the nuances in description as to how much entertainment-focused (or not) the run is. Changing the description won't suddenly make people like the run more.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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BTW, for now, except for 1 person, the pub rates look really really Moon.
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feos wrote:
BTW, for now, except for 1 person, the pub rates look really really Moon.
It is possible for vaults to get high votes. This is the same with some other vaulted runs.
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A bunch of the yes votes had comments like "So boring that it's awesome", so, uh...