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Keen 3 is a little DOS classic released in 1990 by Apogee. It is the last "classic Keen" game in that the next games in the series feautured music and made keen's sprite bigger.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: JPC-rr 11.2
  • Heavy luck manipulation
  • Genre: Platform
  • Heavy Glitch Abuse

Comments

This run beats the World Record but it might not seem like that. This is because I have to wait a bit during the startup screen.

Stuff

  • Keen pogoes higher if you press Control while midair
  • In the first level I have to wait for that armadillo thing to move down or else the evil guy will kill me.
  • Pogoing over the cave, whee! Did you know that this is the only way to beat this level?
  • One hit kills you. If you didn't know.
  • Can you spot a penis in the movie?
  • I think this is a bit improvable, yadda yadda, probably on McMire?
Enjoy


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I really want to see this, but I'm waiting for a rough encode.
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Seconding Lex...
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You guys might want to wait, I have a little improvement discovered....
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Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
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NitroGenesis: How's the improvement going? Is it worth canceling and resubmitting? It doesn't seem like many people have been able to view or comment on this run without an encode.
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
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I dont think any normal viewer would be able to play this movie back. First of all it uses a emulator version you would have to build your own (though I dont understand why you used 11.2 in your Spider Man TAS). Also it would be really helpful if you provided info on the images you used. Both, the oe you build from the games folder and the DOS image you used.
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Here is a precompiled jpc-rr 11.2: http://code.google.com/p/tastools/downloads/detail?name=jpcrr-r11.2-precompiled.zip&can=2&q= That is a typo in the submission text. I used jpcrr 11.2 I'll try to get an encode up tonight.
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Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
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I had no idea what version of the game you used, since no info was provided. I tried tons of versions I found on the web and my old IBM PC but all of them desynced at the first VortiMom (the one that drops from the ceiling). Finally I found one version that seemed to sync (still had to edit the movie file, since the checksum of the image was wrong). Sadly it desynced at the mountain. Rough encode up to desync Got it to sync
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Phallosvogel wrote:
I had no idea what version of the game you used, since no info was provided.
Reading the diskinfo section from submission file (MD5 and file name):
MD5                                    size filename
4c9176ce7bb861e591c6bd2525e6d547         44 /ctlpanel.ck3
3f7c08d71323b77707e0a771dcee3eaa      19216 /egahead.ck3
075d605deb211396e55b84dc8f774dd7     116800 /egalatch.ck3
815739653172d23c3fc839e80c111126      43840 /egasprit.ck3
47ec73f0d727e756c9158b988a3f9a08      18480 /finale.ck3
47dfb892bd52f370f5ae11934ac360f0      61619 /keen3.exe
c5ea5d1e9797c14182afbc18aba63ba8       1830 /level01.ck3
a85b95783ad529fca87d07a7dcf7a23e       2366 /level02.ck3
8cc6b40384d9c31b280a2aa0f025f958       2572 /level03.ck3
76c92ee97b119c416fd692e8fe40a00c       5978 /level04.ck3
95ccd6db3c44e6758145136eb8138299       5252 /level05.ck3
ffb27e921840f672ad1b4af19eda1c1d       1226 /level06.ck3
b7f4590036b56ad6fbeeba1ecb520651       3074 /level07.ck3
e1a736a399c001b271d894ef1b380aae       7226 /level08.ck3
40ece39678d0f0379bee8f2f6529b0ae       9288 /level09.ck3
f06342986c7643f31e53328f9b8bcdd1       2736 /level10.ck3
9b8429fd7aea5a458f2bd45339a87fb7       1624 /level11.ck3
0c5217fda750948f21b940a537acccf2       3048 /level12.ck3
ec34832741ef08ee787880d69748f07c       6172 /level13.ck3
1da7d7388b4e284fd71c16b229c8b689       3130 /level14.ck3
8a0d0903810b5a3fc704f6bfbf86b2a8      11018 /level15.ck3
dd7716d8f6ff4f0f44d2a923fc7278f3        944 /level16.ck3
6082480ce083fe86663fea3753feea5c       6054 /level80.ck3
11af6e2eeeeffe639fe48707c4757aba        320 /level81.ck3
9e2ef055188ec4fbee75a9ead1cfc1c9       1424 /level90.ck3
373768977e3911c05b8d4029fbb00c05        203 /scores.ck3
The DOS disk is the same f334bc4d5dc5f393feb0ca2d1e1cdc25 as every published DOS run uses.
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The zip I used was named Commander Keen 3 Keen Must Die(1990)(Apogee Software).zip
YoungJ1997lol wrote:
Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
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Ilari wrote:
Phallosvogel wrote:
I had no idea what version of the game you used, since no info was provided.
Reading the diskinfo section from submission file (MD5 and file name): ... The DOS disk is the same f334bc4d5dc5f393feb0ca2d1e1cdc25 as every published DOS run uses.
Thank you very much. I found these by opening the movie file with an text editor. I always wondered: How do you actually display the files of an image the easiest way? Tried via command line but no luck. For now I just have to read through the movie-file...
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The zip I used was named Commander Keen 3 Keen Must Die(1990)(Apogee Software).zip
And thank you too. I found the version you were using and found the files that caused the mismatching md5. Aparently the scores were not clean. Plus the CTLPANEL.CK3 was off, though I have no idea what its even for. I used another original version I had and edited the movie file accordingly. Synced perfectly this time. Again, quick encode. This time from start to end. Link to video On the run: Looked nice but the Boss fight looks improvable. Couldnt you hit the third thing you have to shoot while falling down? Also why do you wait for the arm to come down on you before shooting the 4th? Dont you have enough time to pogo up there?
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Thank you very much for the encode! About the boss fight, you cannot shoot through the blue parts of the arms & legs.
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Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
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The run looks a bit sloppy to me. The part at the beginning of the first level you enter especially sticks out. I'm pretty sure this run can be improved with a little more effort. Voting meh.
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Looked really sloppy, unoptimized jumps, unnecessary waits, detour for ammo in first level isn't needed, you can take ammo in the clouds after exiting the tower that takes less time. Not to mention the boss.
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