Posted: 3/10/2011 2:02 AM
Post subject: Tony Hawk's Underground
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MUGG
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I'm interested in running this game (at least the first few missions). I guess I would use sick difficulty. Any advice, hints, tricks?
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Posted: 3/12/2011 3:58 PM
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I know one glitch that works on both THUG and THUG2, which is the "Set-Restart" glitch. To do this glitch, place a "Set-Restart" marker at an area you'd like to bypass or go through (A thin glass door/wall, an OoB area, etc.) and after gaining some speed, load the marker. If you did it correctly, you should be pushed through the object or invisible wall. I know this glitch may sound useful, but I've found no uses for it yet.
Posted: 3/12/2011 6:43 PM
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If I remember correctly (I've also played the sequel a lot, so I might confuse certain things), there's quite a few places in the game where you can get stuck in mid-air, allowing you to combo tricks for as long as you want. You can usually wiggle your way out. This might help to achieve high scores. I'll also pick up this game soon, as I've yet to 100% it anyway and I just enjoy looking for tricks.
Posted: 3/13/2011 1:58 AM
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I'm almost positive that you can do it in both games, but I think you have to go OoB in most areas to do it. And I'm sure you know, but if you don't, you have infinite time to do challenges, so long as you keep a combo going.
Posted: 3/13/2011 9:46 PM
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I was TASing for a bit (on r7251 and on sick difficulty). I chose not to use memory cards since it didn't really have any bad side-effects and I didn't want to have to worry so much about copying memory cards and so on. It seems this game can randomly desync every now and then, similar to what I heard of Mupen back in the day so I need to check the movie every once in a while. After some redoing and realizing that I chose a slower second goal, I just have one goal finished but the progress will get better from this point (I hope). @ ripz3: About this Set-Restart glitch, I still have to check it out sometime. I don't think such a trick will save time in New Jersey anyway. Also, keep in mind this is the gamecube version (I'm not sure if there are version differences between PC, PS2 and GC). Getting stuck in midair sounds cool, but for comboing I can just start a manual or do other fancy stuff. Getting points will be very easy...
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Posted: 3/14/2011 3:49 AM
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Yeah, it won't help in New Jersey. Idt it will help in any of Story Mode, sadly. And you're right, MUGG. Scoring high combos in glitched corners is pretty pointless, since you can do it on flat land. ;) But from the looks of it, it sounds like you know what you're doing, so I shouldn't bother explaining that keeping a combo after time runs out will end up sending you back to the area where the goal is at, no matter how far/long the combo lasts...
Posted: 3/19/2011 2:06 AM
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WIP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG-p0nFQg3g I gave up because there are way too many desyncs for me to handle. I can't bother redoing the same combo or mission dozens of times... Maybe this problem was already fixed by a savestate leak fix recently, but I'm not going to try this game for a bit. Just consider the video above as a little preview.
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Posted: 3/19/2011 2:09 AM
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Are we even allowed to publish games like this? I'm thinking the music might cause some legal trouble.
Posted: 3/19/2011 7:18 AM
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That looked really great so far. Nice work.
Posted: 3/19/2011 10:59 AM
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K, nice wip. But you can do double jumps against walls, so you didn't need to climb the ledge for the first skateboard piece 20 secs in. Plus when skitching, grinding etc I'd like to see perfect balance please, otherwise it's harder to get drawn into the TAS nature of the run. Btw, I look forward to seeing a run of Hangover Cure in Moscow, that was my favourite goal in the game.
Posted: 3/19/2011 12:22 PM
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K, nice wip. But you can do double jumps against walls, so you didn't need to climb the ledge for the first skateboard piece 20 secs in.
Oh, I didn't know this.
Plus when skitching, grinding etc I'd like to see perfect balance please, otherwise it's harder to get drawn into the TAS nature of the run.
When skitching, I already tried to get good balance but I couldn't get it any better without using savestates (which means a higher chance of desyncs). When grinding, depending on how you jump on a rail/ledge the balance may already be quite off, so there's not much I can do. I'll need to redo everything later anyway.
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Posted: 9/12/2012 11:05 PM
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Is there anything going on with this game?
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Posted: 9/18/2012 4:41 PM
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I've started a TAS. I don't have anything to compare to though. :/
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Posted: 9/18/2012 4:56 PM
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I found this on Youtube. I can't tell how optimized it is, as I don't own this game. Link to video
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Posted: 9/24/2012 7:16 AM
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I haven't played this game in a while, but I'm pretty sure that its possible to jump off the ledge right after grabbing it at times like 0:39 I stopped watching soon after that because I noticed who ever made this couldn't seem to even walk in a straight line <_< this certainly is not something you would want to compare times with.
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Posted: 9/27/2012 11:45 PM
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I've been having major problems with desyncs already. Somewhere around 20 seconds my TAS was messed up (that is a lot). For some reason THUG2 has less desyncs than THUG1.
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Posted: 9/27/2012 11:53 PM
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Which build are you using? Are you using the correct settings (http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12484)?
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Posted: 9/28/2012 10:15 PM
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I'm using Dolphin x64 3.0-754, and I'm using the correct settings. I tried replaying the TAS again today and it synced all the way through. It's subject to desync probably every other time I replay it.
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Posted: 9/29/2012 12:03 AM
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What would be interesting is if you started with a save (beating the game once) as there is a different ending also it's a faster run too. Great run so far MUGG.
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Posted: 10/16/2012 12:39 AM
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I'm going to have to re-TAS this on a different rev of Dolphin, keeps desynching in the same spot at random times. Does anyone recommend a rev? I'm thinking about using a rev with [desync fixes].
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Posted: 10/16/2012 1:58 AM
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bihan wrote:
I'm going to have to re-TAS this on a different rev of Dolphin, keeps desynching in the same spot at random times. Does anyone recommend a rev?
Just use the latest official build. Or i suppose, better yet, use the builds in this post, since those changes are not yet included in official releases.
I'm thinking about using a rev with [desync fixes].
I wouldn't use that for gc games. As far as desyncs, make sure you have dual core and idle skipping off, and audio is using LLE recompiler.
Posted: 10/17/2012 1:18 AM
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rog wrote:
Just use the latest official build. Or i suppose, better yet, use the builds in this post, since those changes are not yet included in official releases.
Thanks rog.
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