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Nowadays, I usually don't pay great deal of attention to someone's signature but I couldn't stop noticing and get a little offended by Bisqwit's signature. I can't copy it but it says: Islam is not a religion of peace and recommends us to visit www.godslearningchannel.com. Now I aint no muslim but whether or not those were Bisqwit's own words, I don't like it at all. I would definitely feel the same if someone said Buddhim is not a religion of peace. Furthermore, I don't like seeing an ad about GLC (God's learning channel), this is tasvideos. Yeah I know I am maybe beeing too sensitive about this but eh.. That's just how I feel.
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that's a lot of egypt right there
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
I absolutely agree about Bisqwit's signature. The last thing the world needs right now is someone appealing to everyone to be afraid of other people.
It wouldn't be so bad if Bisqwit were the only one, though...
How fleeting are all human passions compared with the massive continuity of ducks.
I dislike religious propaganda as much as anyone, but I don't see how one can be offended by facts. I mean it all depends on how you define 'peace' (the muslim definition is undoubtetly something like "peace is only attained when all people on Earth are muslims") but by our western definition of peace, you'd have to have some pretty revolutionary new evidence to say that islam is a religion of peace.
(the muslim definition is undoubtetly something like "peace is only attained when all people on Earth are muslims") but by our western definition of peace, you'd have to have some pretty revolutionary new evidence to say that islam is a religion of peace.
So they want to convert people. So do a vast majority of relgions. Just because Islam teachs conversion does not mean it teachs VIOLENT conversion. There are some radical groups who do believe in violence, but that is true of all religions (the Muslim ones just have more money and publicity).
There is a lot more to islam than just conversion that makes it a religion of violence and oppression, like universally condoning violence against disobedient wives.
Just because Islam teachs conversion does not mean it teachs VIOLENT conversion.
Whether it does or does not is beside the point; I am not here to argue. I could argue in the Ask Bisqwit thread though, but [this] and [this] will get you started. Be sure to check the references.
I just point out things that I've learned and the way anyone who is interested can learn more about these things that interest me.
Whether you believe it or not; and whether you are interested or not, that is up to you.
I could also point out that Scientology is a devious hoax, and that the Japanese are in vain praying to their dead relatives, and that Santa Claus is not a real person, nor did the Saint Nicolaus exist whom he is allegedly based on. And that wealth does not equal happiness. And that Emacs is better than Vi (I use neither), and that Linux is better than Windows. And Honda is better than Fiat, and that communism simply cannot work and that democracy too is wrong. And that abortion is wrong, and that the Russians are fine people, and that the only thing French in France today is their language. If people can proclaim things like "there is no God" and "man descended from monkeys" without getting in trouble, I feel that I am also entitled to my message.
If people can proclaim things like "there is no God" and "man descended from monkeys" without getting in trouble, I feel that I am also entitled to my message.
You are. However, if your message can get shown to be in error, then you deserve to be ridiculed about it.
Build a man a fire, warm him for a day,
Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.
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Simplifying those religions of the barbarians of the desert, all they say is "peace is only attained when critical thinking is dead".
You cannot achieve peace with religion. At best you're gonna live your life being an obedient sheep believing everything is fine.
Albert Einstein:
*If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
*Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.
*Laws alone cannot secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be a spirit of tolerance in the entire population.
*The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.
Richard Dawkins:
*Not surprisingly, since it is founded on local traditions of private
revelation rather than evidence, the God Hypothesis comes in many
versions.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
Goodie, more drama on this site! Because that's exactly what tasvideos is all about!
In all seriousness, while this might sound smug and arrogant, if someone proclaims various theses, in this case, Bisqwit's signature, but does not have the arguments to back those up, I'd say you can safely ignore them without getting offended.
But that's just me, I don't personally think it's worth getting worked up other such things.
I just can't bring myself to feel Bisqwit is a person worth worrying about, given the existence of provably morally bankrupt people in the world, plus CEOs.
Sure. I am definitely not a fan of Christianity either. But I'm sure you'll admit that there is a huge difference in conventions and principles between Christianity and Islam. In mainstream Christianity, the Bible quotes you posted aren't taken as literal word of God as far as I understand.
Sure. I am definitely not a fan of Christianity either. But I'm sure you'll admit that there is a huge difference in conventions and principles between Christianity and Islam. In mainstream Christianity, the Bible quotes you posted aren't taken as literal word of God as far as I understand.
"The bible quotes you posted aren't taken as literal word of God" is an incredibly barefaced trope to use when criticising Islam based on the words in the Qu'ran. Somehow, the Bible is to be taken allegorically, but the Qu'ran must be taken literally? Not according to a lot of muslims.
If you want to state that Islam is not a religion of peace, you must first define what this means. That its central text is not peaceful when taken literally? By that definition, Christianity and Judaism are not religions of peace. That there are some violent followers? By that definition, Christianity and Judaism are not religions of peace. That there are loud self-identified Muslims who preach hate speech? By that definition, Christianity and Judaism are not religions of peace. That the central text is not peaceful when taken allegorically? That's not even a full definition until you explain how to decode the allegory.
Once you have a clear definition of "religion of peace" and a clear argument which shows Islam is actually less peaceful than Christianity or Judaism, then you might have a point. Currently you don't.
If people want to believe badly translated novels as truth, and silently blather on about it to the world, let them already.
Just silently point and laugh.
It's the loud ones you need to worry about. (But that's just my silent opinion.)
Sheesh.
Come now Krysimys. It's not like Christianity is without it's problems with women.
You should put things in perspective. How many Christian countries do you know who flog and even stone women to death for things that are not even considered crimes at all in most civilized countries? The same cannot be said from many muslim countries (just as an example, make a search for Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani). And these are actual governments, not just some radical minority groups.
Come now Krysimys. It's not like Christianity is without it's problems with women.
You should put things in perspective. How many Christian countries do you know who flog and even stone women to death for things that are not even considered crimes at all in most civilized countries? The same cannot be said from many muslim countries (just as an example, make a search for Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani). And these are actual governments, not just some radical minority groups.
Lest we forget, This was not that long ago, in the context of human history.
Also, I believe the point of Angerfist's post wasn't the legitimacy of the claims , but whether or not Bisqwit's signature is offensive, and does that warrant a requested/forced removal.
Sage advice from a friend of Jim: So put your tinfoil hat back in the closet, open your eyes to the truth, and realize that the government is in fact causing austismal cancer with it's 9/11 fluoride vaccinations of your water supply.
Lest we forget, This was not that long ago, in the context of human history.
The despicable acts of one religion cannot be justified or even ameliorated by the despicable acts of another religion.
Also, I believe the point of Angerfist's post wasn't the legitimacy of the claims , but whether or not Bisqwit's signature is offensive, and does that warrant a requested/forced removal.
I must agree that it may be a good idea to avoid controversial statements in signatures, especially when they deal with subjects likely to cause provocation.
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EDIT: Oops, I meant to quote this post. -- Brushy
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If you want to state that Islam is not a religion of peace, you must first define what this means.
I'm afraid I don't have a ready made clear-cut definition for you, but I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. News articles like this can be read every week in British newspapers and hardly ever do any muftis, mullahs or imams say that they disagree. Islam has barbaric conventions and practices and they are part of mainstream Islam and most muslims and especially muslim clergymen seem to have no problem with them.
EDIT: mmbossman and NitroGenesis should look up Buddhism or Jainism.
I'm afraid I don't have a ready made clear-cut definition for you, but I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. News articles like this can be read every week in British newspapers and hardly ever do any muftis, mullahs or imams say that they disagree. Islam has barbaric conventions and practices and they are part of mainstream Islam and most muslims and especially muslim clergymen seem to have no problem with them.
Media certainly does give the portrayal of Islam as something dangerous. Elsewhere I've read that it's just propaganda; the same type of propaganda that was used against Jews under WW1-2 and it is supposed to be a part of a plan towards WW3. The motive behind this is money and power. If everyone thinks Islam and muslims are dangerous, they will probably become dangerous too.
I found an interesting prophecy from 1987 from a guy who claimed to be in contact with aliens. Many think is a complete fraud/nut, but this sounds surprisingly close to what is going on and what could happen soon:
"And it will be that the fanatics of Islam will rise up against the countries of Europe and all will shake and quiver. Everything in the West will be destroyed; England will be conquered and thrown down to the lowest level of misery. And the fanatics and warriors of Islam will retain their power for a long time. However, not only Europe will be affected but ultimately all the countries and peoples of the Earth, as the great horror expands to a war that will encompass the entire world.
After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small, as does Catholicism."
Another interesting quote from the same prophecy: "The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning."
-- Source: http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch2.htm
These are pretty good predictions, coming from a guy who made fake UFOs from garbage can lids: http://forgetomori.com/2007/ufos/the-billy-meier-hoax-photographs/
