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fsvgm777 wrote:
I wonder why you went for the tape release (with the slowest loading, no really, about half the duration of the TAS is seizure-inducing loading as it is) instead of a disk release. I assume it's because you didn't want to deal with a cracked disk image, even though there's an exception for them in the rules (for C64 games and I presume also ZX Spectrum games).
Normally we have run into issues every time for obtaining a disk image. So, I guess we have naturally started to avoid them.
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Man, when I was younger...I couldn't play this game past a certain point. I think I see why now. Some of these levels have check points that cause openings. I thought at first, you were backtracking for no reason, but I see it was necessary.
Good job. I don't see anything glaring out that needs optimizing.
Yes vote
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SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Memory wrote:
I wasn't entirely sure what you meant when you asked me about this. I didn't realize that there was a unique screen after you pressed the button. In that case according to the Judge Guidelines, we generally prefer the submission to include said input, but this is not required. Please let me know your preferences.
I'm responding here to make our discord discussion official.
Yes, I'd like to keep the inputs as they were submitted.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
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SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Memory wrote:
I was totally confused when I initially read this but basically pressing fire at the "You have succeeded" screen will cause the ship to fly away and when that finishes it displays some additional text before returning back to the title screen without any additional input.
Yeah, me too. This is why we originally asked you about this scenario. DrD2k9 and myself mulled over this a bit until we realized that it does beat the game, but the post inputs are just required to get the game back to the beginning again. Commodore sure had some strange programming back then.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Juarez...just a thought, but the low voting on your TAS could be the lack of a "Temp Encode" If you had something for us to view, it would make it a lot easier to comment and vote.
If this is anything like the TAS that jmos put out a few months ago, then it should be pretty good. Abstaining from voting...until a temp code can be provided.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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This is truly one off the best efforts I've seen from you. The game choice, the optimization, and entertainment.
I'll definitely be following the life of this submission.
Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Dang DrD2k9...shooting those ducks in the grass doesn't seem to be fair. Did you ever consider the little ducklings that were left behind after you killed the parents?
Yes vote for clearly making it fast as possible. This means, cutting the "Perfect" bonus in the stages that didn't require 10 out of 10 and affecting RNG in order to bring up the ducks as fast as possible.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Very interesting game. As you are already aware, Commodore had a massive amount of games...more than I can even be aware of.
Looks great. Yes Vote.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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I have worked with DrD2k9 before and I know the effort he puts behind his work. Aside from the places where the main character gets halted (apparently a limitation of the game), it seems to be optimized.
The Commodore Vic-20 and 64 were my childhood...almost all the games bring back the memories I had back then. So...Yes to entertainment...Yes to optimization.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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DrD2k9 wrote:
EDIT: I put way too much time and effort into writing that.
Yes you did. Worthy of another Yes, if I could.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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I can see that the "runs" don't stop. :) Well, DrD2K9...did you finally find the toilet in this game?
Oh...Yes vote!
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Nice improvement. 508 frames.
I see a bit of difference in entertainment. Nice job.
Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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feos wrote:
Lobsterzelda wrote:
You have chance to participate in a frame war :)
I'm for it! These submissions are turning out to be quite the entertainment.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Well, my rules are the same. Great job...Yes vote for finding more frames.
But seriously? 666 frames cut...did you just stop at that point? LOL
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Lobsterzelda wrote:
Welp... It looks like I just got usurped.
Oh man... sorry dude.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Wow...finally after all this time, MR gets some attention across so many consoles. Way to go on completing this version!
I'm surprised at the Atari 2600 game, it truly shows more difficulty as the game goes on. For Colecovision, it seemed to be barely noticeable from level to level. Well, 3 levels...I can imagine that they had to do something to make it clearly more challenging as it went on.
I'm also jealous that you were able to find more deaths than myself and DrD2K9. One of the problems that we had, is that it took a very long time for the death cut scene to complete. Yours seems to be much faster and certainly worth the effort.
Aside from the findings of Spikestuff, I think you did a really good job on optimization. As feos put it, the game has limitations and any lack of movement is clearly understandable...due to waiting for disappearing objects.
Great job! Welcome aboard, and Yes vote!
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Not bad, a 918 frame improvement.
You know my rule on voting, and this qualifies for a Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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ElGuato84VE wrote:
I had the hope to see at least 1 port TASed and i found it! Thanks nymx and all involved.
Absolutely!
You might be interested to know that I've already updated my original attempt.
The newest effort can be found here: http://tasvideos.org/3889M.html Its roughly 3 minutes and 17 seconds faster.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Interesting, I never knew there was a version for the Atari 2600.
I see some glitchy moves going on here. :)
Some places appear to be unoptimized, but after thinking about it...these rooms have static patterns that start the frame you enter.
I take it RNG doesn't exist in this?
Yes vote anyway.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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After a lengthy discuss with Aran;Jaeger (EternisedDragon), I decided to create a thread for something that has confused me for a while.
The question is: How do you rate the technical quality of a publication?
There are many different points to bring up and ED has commented on a number of good ideas. Since I don't see any guidelines...what do you think the rules of rating should be?
As for Entertainment, that pretty much goes as a personal preference, but for technical ability, I would like to rate movies with a common ground of understanding. So far, my understanding is the level of effort it took to produce...but in fact, it could be that I don't see any frames to be found (meaning a 10).
So...should guidelines be created? let's discuss this and see what comes of it.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
Thanks feos.
The thing that DrD2K9 and I discovered, is that there is a global timer that runs the disappearing chains and floors. Because of that, the inputs are needing a shift of a certain amount of frames; however, that is still not enough...since there is input lag and sometimes a critical input fall within the lag frames that occur ever 5 (or is it 6) frames.
So, entering Level 9 (on a different frame) for the second time would also have to be adjusted in order for the shift to work.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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theripper999 wrote:
Liked this Tas quite a bit. Solid superplay. The Zelda type gameplay seems well done, even if it has some similar areas.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this had a Zelda feel about.
Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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dan wrote:
I am a little disappointed that you inserted me into this the way you did. This is Sniq's time to shine, and this thread should be about him.
You are right dan. Even though sniq did an amazing job, I would like to add that the collaboration between the three of you (sniq, EternisedDragon/Aran Jaeger, and yourself), for routing, was also amazing. After seeing some of the early stuff about 18 months ago...I could tell that it was going to pay off in a big way. Now that it is complete, the time cut certainly shows how much effort and knowledge went into this.
Great job guys.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
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Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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Incredible journey sniq. Very proud to follow along these past 2 years during this creation.
So many differences over the previous version and very stunning discoveries.
Absolutely yes vote!
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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DrD2k9 wrote:
And the route planning would be INSANE!
Absolutely!!!
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence.
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SOYZA: Are you playing a game?
NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing.
SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real?
----
Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes?
Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :)
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BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
