I think he insulted you, swear some more and tell him that he has no life. That ought to do the trick.
Hahaha
I do admit I have been pretty insulting...sorry I did that, won't do it again.
Finally, I really am done with this crap, and I think you guys are too...all what is getting done is flaming and flaming.
I have provided you guys the proof I have, and I am done with making anymore. I am sorry I can prove anything else.
If you guys think I used a GameShark..fine by me, I don't really care.
I proved as much as I can, and I do not have anymore time to sit and argue and create a mupen movie.
Sorry to disappoint.
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again
krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere
krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Hey, so I am going to make a .m64 file to show the trick for the Mario video
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Can you show me how to do it?
(17:25) Johannes: gl.. :/
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when I show them this video
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I need
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Mupen64
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: and thats it?
(17:26) Johannes: bluetoaster.com/emu
(17:26) Johannes: get the recommended one
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: alright
(17:27) Johannes: utilities, movie, start movie recording
(17:27) Johannes: starting from start
(17:27) Johannes: and do your trick
(17:27) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Okay
(17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Alright
(17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So the trick is working
(17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: however
(17:57) Johannes: O_O
(17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: the video is lagging
Etc.
Oh, I meant the blj on the blue slope in the lobby, not the walk under water thing. Sorry for making it unclear.
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again
krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere
krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Hey, so I am going to make a .m64 file to show the trick for the Mario video
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Can you show me how to do it?
(17:25) Johannes: gl.. :/
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when I show them this video
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I need
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Mupen64
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: and thats it?
(17:26) Johannes: bluetoaster.com/emu
(17:26) Johannes: get the recommended one
(17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: alright
(17:27) Johannes: utilities, movie, start movie recording
(17:27) Johannes: starting from start
(17:27) Johannes: and do your trick
(17:27) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Okay
(17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Alright
(17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So the trick is working
(17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: however
(17:57) Johannes: O_O
(17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: the video is lagging
Etc.
Oh, I meant the blj on the blue slope in the lobby, not the walk under water thing. Sorry for making it unclear.
So this kid can't even figure out Mupen64 but he can BLJ by hand consistently?
Right-o.
But yeah if Mr. "I don't sit around making mario movies" (which...he does) wants to prove himself, I think he has to walk into the water swimming, then do his made-up bullshit to get into the water walking. This is not going to happen though and one thing I was going to say was that he doesn't seem to understand that one doesn't need a cart-on-cart setup to have a GS working on the SM64 cartridge...
He also failed to address SL's suggestion about playing pre-made footage (i.e. gameshark/tas'd stuff that he TV-out'd to his TV.) We don't hear the insane tapping of the A button and we certainly don't see it.
So, anyway...
You are a fucking fool,
You probably didn't even watch the video kid, and if you did, I CLEARLY showed and told that I was using an autofire controller. So if you seriously think this is fake because you couldn't hear me mashing A, then you're a complete retard.
You guys also don't seem to understand that the water thing was totally random, and I have never, ever been able to do that again...and I doubt I ever will be able to. I mean, you guys are expecting me to be able to do this trick again in my sleep like its nothing...no!
and Hahahaha Pre-Recording? Thats almost as dumb as you saying its fake because you couldn't hear me pressing buttons.
Maybe if you actually watched the video, I clearly showed my recorder was aside UNPLUGGED and there was no way it could of been in use.
And you guys seriously think I actually hid another N64 behind the TV, hid another copy of Super Mario 64, and hid all the hardware behind that little thing? Thats pathetic...AND it doesn't even give a reason to this to be fake because the guy "playing" would have to of done the trick himself too.
Can you guys also give a reason why I was able to turn on the N64 for you guys? And can you guys give a reason why I was sliding down hills and stuff at the beginning of the bowser level, and the beginning of the video? I mean...that DEFINATELY means I was using GameShark codes, even though there wasn't any GameShark.
Hmm, I am not quite sure when, I am still trying to figure this out, and I have to find a computer running Windows XP and do the m64 because mupen crashes whenever I try to make the movie file..and I was told it is because I am using Vista
Gee, what're the odds. I have Vista and it works fine for me. Everyone else has Vista, and it works fine for them. But yeah, I totally believe this.
I honestly do not know when I will have one up by..
When Mupen has a GameShark function built into it, maybe?
Dude, you seriously are taking this WAY far..like, I honestly don't even know why I am posting here.
I'm some random dude posting videos of shit I discover in this game, and now I got every TASer on the planet on my ass like I committed first degree murder or something..
Like, for Christ sakes, do you guys seriously think I'd actually pull off what you guys are accusing me of? Like, do you guys think I am off trying to make some crazy new official record and win money for it? For crying out loud, take your heads out of your asses and wake up! I am 15 years old, and I have MUCH better/important things to worry about than this.
I am so SICK of being called a cheater just because I do something new, and so SICK of wasting my time making videos to shut people up, its just so unbelievable.
You know, I actually have a life, and I don't sit on my ass working on little cute Mario movies all day...and I am sorry that I do not have the time and patience to figure out some confusing ass recording file just because some random people on a forum want me to.
So you know what people? Shut the fuck up and calm down, I gave you my proof, and if you guys STILL think it is fake, you guys go ahead and rant and cry about it like little fucking children. I don't care anymore. You guys have no open minds whatsoever, and it is so hilarious how hard headed you fools are.
Okay then, give us an m64 of it.
Since you can do the "trick," you shouldn't have any problems recreating it in Mupen. When can we expect an m64?
Hmm, I am not quite sure when, I am still trying to figure this out, and I have to find a computer running Windows XP and do the m64 because mupen crashes whenever I try to make the movie file..and I was told it is because I am using Vista
I honestly do not know when I will have one up by..
After testing (doing EXACTLY what you did) and failing to get it, I'm still calling BS. How do we know this isn't just recorded footage that you're pretending to be playing? Or that there isn't another N64 behind the TV being played by someone else?
I'll believe it when I see the m64. And you still haven't proven the underwater thing.
Just to add to this. It's interesting that there's no clicking whatsoever coming from the controller you're playing on...surely the mic capturing your voice and the noise from the TV speakers would be able to detect the much more local clicking from your controller, especially during the BLJs.
Speaking of those BLJs, they are quite remarkable. It seems like you're pressing A exactly 15 times a second for at least two seconds. Was there a turbo controller you didn't mention?
Finally, as Swordless mentioned, the moat glitch is the much more significant of the two; we'd all like to see that more.
Still patiently awaiting that m64.
EDIT: seems like you did mention turbo use before. Did you happen to use it for the main glitches as well? This would make sense.
Are you blind or something?
I CLEARLY showed that I was using an autofire controller at the beginning.
It sure seems like you guys aren't even watching the full video..
After testing (doing EXACTLY what you did) and failing to get it, I'm still calling BS. How do we know this isn't just recorded footage that you're pretending to be playing? Or that there isn't another N64 behind the TV being played by someone else?
I'll believe it when I see the m64. And you still haven't proven the underwater thing.
...Goddamnit.
First of all, you're not doing it right then..
Are you lining up with the corner and then diving when you hit the corner while following it with a kick?
That's what you have to do, you're probably not doing it right, it takes practice.
Oh psh, right, another N64 behind my TV? Hahahaha and then an assistant playing? Hahaha that's creative.
If you are accusing me of that, to that extent, then no one would ever be able to prove anything buddy.
I am sorry you can't do the trick, and I can, but that doesn't make it fake, and if you seriously still think this is fake, you should be in a mental hospital.
This guy also made a youtube video of getting behind the upstairs key door by BLJing on the highly sloped lobby ceiling directly above the door, if you want more evidence that he's using a code that allows standing on impossible slopes.
I think a camcorder video like he's been doing, in which the full N64, including the front of it and the 3 spare controller ports, the cartridge in it, and the cord that goes from it to the TV (need front input), and possibly the controller and controller cord, are all within the video frame at once, while such a trick is done, would be proof enough. If he stalls on that, then you know for sure...
That is what I suggested I'd do before...
I can do this, and do the .m64 thing...but I might need some time to figure out the m64 crap, and I need a game controller for the computer, because I can't play on the keyboard for my life
Hey guys, so I got Mupen to work and the trick is working, however when recording is on, the video is lagging like a bitch, and it is very hard to play..
Turning on Jabo's plugin makes it a little better, but the game is pretty unplayable :-\
I am running Windows Vista with 3gb ram and an ATI Radeon x1270 graphics card
Download and install the emulator mentioned here. It is a modified version of Mupen 64 to implement rerecording.
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2934
Open a Super Mario 64 (U) [!] Rom (We cannot give or direct you to this at TASVideos, it is against forum policy.)
Wait till the game sufficiently boots up to the intro screens.
Go to: Utilities -> Movie -> Start Movie Recording (Check from start.)
Optimally you would need a USB controller to play like you would want to on a Nintendo 64.
If you could prove that you can reproduce this without cartridge tilting on an N64 without gameshark, we could consider it legitimate as well. If you're so confident you can reproduce this why don't you just tell us how, because it certainly can't be done by conventional means.
z0MG wrote:
KrohnIndustry has no idea - it happened randomly.
krohn7master wrote:
I would be more than happy to setup a time to make a live stream of me demonstrating some of the tricks used in this video.
These don't match for the record.
Anyway, it is literally against everything everyone here knows to be true. Feel free to prove us wrong.
I'd prefer proving on the N64, but how would you want me to prove that?
As for the Mupen, thanks. I will try this out, but I am going to buy a gamepad controller since I am absolutely terrible with the keyboard.
Is it okay if I use autofire on these runs?
Although, I do understand some of these tricks seem to go against all what we understand is possible in the game, this should not be anyway to accuse me of cheating and/or hacking the gameplay.
The problem is you've done overly simple things which goes against the games basic logic. If 6-7 highly knowledgable are saying "that definitley doesn't happen normally" then serious doubts are going to be raised.
krohn7master wrote:
Who was the idiot who thought that I was using the walk underwater cheat anyways? Are you guys that retarded to think I used such a cheat, even though when I entered the moat door, I immediately floated to the top of the water.
The water collision works the exact same way as it does in OoT. It's not the same as SM64DS where surface checks get done. BTW, I did try the trick out for myself before I drew any conclusions and I did study your video carefully while attempting. I did a warp style blj which would have had a more optimal effect than what was demonstrated in your video, and a version which pretty much replicates what you did frame for frame. Neither of them were successful. I then downloaded your video and studied it frame by frame for any oddities, and I noticed there was 3 particular frames which caught my eye. You had running animation on a slope which Mario would normally slide on.
This defies basic game logic, but can however be replicated by a walk underwater cheat.
krohn7master wrote:
Then we'll see who's fucked more in the head than a gameshark fucking up a game.
If you create a new .m64 on mupen (not from a savestate) and successfully replicate the glitch for us, then we will gladly owe you an apology, but for now I'm too clouded with suspicion to take this seriously.
Hmm, I swear I've seen you somewhere before..whatever
Anyways, I would be more than happy to make a .m64, however I have never used Mupen before and I do need someone to teach me how to make one, so can someone here explain to me briefly on how to make one?
Hahaha, you guys are arguing like freakin politicians.
Listen, there was in way, not one solitary way, I used a cheat device to complete the tricks used in that video.
Although, I do understand some of these tricks seem to go against all what we understand is possible in the game, this should not be anyway to accuse me of cheating and/or hacking the gameplay.
Who was the idiot who thought that I was using the walk underwater cheat anyways? Are you guys that retarded to think I used such a cheat, even though when I entered the moat door, I immediately floated to the top of the water.
You guys still gonna fight over this? Hah, good for you, I would be more than happy to setup a time to make a live stream of me demonstrating some of the tricks used in this video.
Then we'll see who's fucked more in the head than a gameshark fucking up a game.
Goodbye.
This defies basic game logic, but can however be replicated by a walk underwater cheat.