Saethori I'm not sure those are the conclusions every person out of the loop will make out of this. But one pokemon yellow tas is not the only thing I have done with tasvideos. Not submitting improvements to it twice was the only such distance I made (there's another improvement I made that was beaten by p4wn3r a long time ago and I didn't make an outcry because it was fair game). I am more of a speedrunner than a taser though, but being a programmer in order to speedrun I like to check out the game code if possible, and tas capable emulators often come with debuggers so that saves me work, if I can't find what I need I have no problem coding it on my own and then releasing. Like I think I said I haven't done a lot but I have also coded some and released it here, if people use or don't use what I did is a different matter. I hope the movie generator wasn't removed from tasedit since it was pretty functional as far as i know (something else was removed I recall). Worked for me at least. I think people prefer to bot with lua though. I usually post my findings and strategies in tl;dr posts for tasers and speedrunners to use if they wish, again don't know and don't care about my success in that regard, my success may be zero for all I know.
To whoever pointed it out. It may be cool that you offer me to have my record protected if I submit from now on. But you are offering me protection from yourselves. I feel bullied. I do not appreciate that.
adelikat yes I would certainly accept one frame faster (or better) to beat the record as that is generally the rule, I would feel really stupid if such frame was a glaring menu mistake of mine but would accept it without problems just taking note to not be so careless next time, I've always had such mistakes, specially in math exams. And as I may have pointed out in the past (or not, no idea) enjoy to be beaten with something interesting, such thing has happened at least thrice that I recall.
Asking to myself I do believe I have the record as of now because I got that frame count first and released it to the public, so I assume the answer is it would be the record that I own. That word implies legal ownership of some sort I believe. Legally, I've always assumed I did not own anything, this is an emulated game after all th eonly ones to own something are the game creators, and my lack of legal ownership has sort of been validated by everyone else's answers. While they may/not be lawyers, my knowledge on that area is zero so they have a good chance to know better than me. The word could be wrong, but I am not in a good position to argue word meanings, I am a mere C on english, and that is kind of outside the scope, but maybe I am reading too much between lines.
Now, asking me to dissect my rationale, is it really necessary? Why should we rationalize this, you want my movie file I can mail it to you, want a 60fps video? sure, I should have the folder with the "project" it had the avisynth script, the butterfree animation files and my notepad notes. I would have given them to anyone had they requested them personally as a favor, just like I have mailed lots of things before. For some reason I recall shooting down someone's request but I think he was requesting a public release of the vbm. I don't see it as an input file, a record, a strategy or trick I see it as a run, perhaps that's because I am more used to SDA, you don't submit your button presses on a speedrun, you don't even have to submit the raw file, all you have to do is to show a video and your comments, which is what I did here. I still believe that is enough for this, if I had tased let's say metroid without glitches I suppose I would have released the input file, if only because the game must be more complex and definitely longer, here it was just some keypresses visible in real time or a couple replays, and the ones that you couldn't see were much better explained in text since they were luck manipulation mostly.
I had decided not to submit to tasvideos but at the same time knew members of it would want to have it. Then there's two big problems with posting the vbm:
1. I publish on youtube and provide a movie file. Then someone else submits for me to tasvideos and the movie gets published. I have already pointed I did not want it submitted for me. Much worse if the movie was submitted for themselves with the claim that they had came up with it on their own and never saw my video, in this regard I wasn't expecting p4wn3r (just to leave that clear) but some random person. On the first case I wasn't sure of the outcome because I have lurked other incidents in the past, so rather not make it easier for you. In the second case I was expecting to win in the end but didn't want to fight in the first place.
2. What I did: To prevent 1 I do not publish the vbm. Now the main argument of most is that my record doesn't exist because I didn't provide a vbm, which is technically correct per your site rules, I laugh at that, because even if I attached the vbm to my post right now the next claim would be that I possibly forged it, which again is technically correct, and those would surely be followed with more buts.
By not giving the vbm I expected p4wn3r to have some fun reverse engineering the run as well, that also provided me the best peer review possible, if while reverse engineering something clicked on his mind and beat my run with something clever it would have been great. He messaged me shortly after asking me if my run was 4178 to which I assumed he had been successful at it, then waited for the improvement, although thinking about it he could have just calculated from the timing I provided.
In the other cases, longer/equal movie, I wouldn't have made an outcry, just pointed out my run was faster on the thread so that the judge didn't publish it because there was a better record out there, which now I think of it may be possibly wrong because your rules aren't like that yari yara, I assume too much as you may notice. Last time I didn't do so because I was beaten, I didn't post at all I believe because then I would have had needed to include a link to my video which used the same strategy (with mistakes so ended slower) and I didn't want to take away from his record.
In the case someone with an equal time claimed they came up with it on their own without seeing my video, and assuming I believed them, which would have been hard, I would have offered coauthorship and submitted to tasvideos if he so wished.
But now it was already accepted and the run had not added anything at all and while there was a chance the judge had not noticed it was likely he did so I got very angry. I still had to post so there went my first post on which I noted my state and apologized had it been my mistake and went to sleep so I could calm down and it was the very late anyway. And now I realize this is a wall of text... I hope you know how I think so please just give me my answer.
EDIT: actually before you point out, on the case of equal by copying before the judge decision my text is wrong that would only fit longer, I would point out its copied and request the judge cancel the submission. Copying and reverse engineering basically everything besides inputs that do not affect the run are the same to me.
