Here are his latest comments.
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Q. During the trial term, how many time did you get finished ?
A. about 20 times.
Q. how many time did you reset the game to go to next try?
A. I don't remember, but guess it's about 600 times.
Q. Did you consider to reset the game until you were recording this movie?
A. Yes. I wanted to quit this try at Wrecked Ship and Maridia because of some mistakes.
Q. How do you hold your controller?
A. like this.
(catnap222's comment: CRAZY... LOL)
Q. What is your next run?
A. mabye 100% single-segment in 52.
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The more I hear his comment, the more I'm supprised....
I can't wait his next movie. ;)
BananaOyaji discovered it in 21 Aug 2005.
Little bit earlier than kejardon did. 8)
maybe they discovered it independently.
EDIT: I saw that movie. wow.. that's cool.
In our community, active console speedrunner is Hotarubi only now.
Another player Sippu is retired.
It seems that hotarubi will make another speedrun again, but haven't decided what category to make or when.
so.. ive got some question ..
hope everybody knows outta the new 0:32 speedrun or anywhere else.. the bluesuit with the R button, its actually a bluesuit but you can't move.. any solutions why? i fooled arround with that nearly one week now.. cant get anything to work with it
is there a way to use it anywhere for anything? maybe a way for a new free-jet-jump like at draygoon->crystalflash?
for any which dont know .. run till you have your echoes .. push DOWN and R at the same time .. or just hold R while pressing down works too sometimes - after that dont move - you'll glow blue but cant do anything
That's temporary-bule-suit, not the real blue suit.
You can lose it easily, for moving foward or releasing R button or stand up etc.
Only way to retain it is to jump virtically, to move foward until Samus is jumping, to morph near ground surface and demorph with pressing R or L.
Also, you can turn around only by using x-ray.
This trick was discovered by our NINTENDON! community (MR. BananaOyaji).
And I have researched it very much.
But still, it is'nt able to charge super jump from temporary-blue-suit.
So this trick is very limited for use.
Only one point it contribute is raising NBMB persentage.
If you retain this, you can get Maridia mainstreet missile pack.
(but it is too difficult to peform in console play.)
This method raises NBMB persentage by 74%.
new comments arrives. enjoy. ;)
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Q. What controller you use?
A. Normal one attached to Super Nintendo.
Q. What controller settings you use?
A. Y: shot, B: jump, X: item cancel, A: dash. others are normal.
You can see bit in the item get message. (ex. speed booster)
Q. Missile recovery at Crateria Energy Tank is unbelievable!
A. Not so difficult. I always do like this even if I have 5 missiles.
(catnap222' note: I have heard that he always kill green pirates with missile and recover missile from green crab in Brinsta. I don't know why (mabye advantage for time or more damage boosts after that), but this strategy needs that Samus must be full energy at the begining of Brinsta. It seems that he always kill two flying enemies in order to take no damage.)
Q. Damage boost at ceres is amazing!
A. I use falling tile, not steam. So required position is visible.
Q. Why did you stop boost dash at the big Crateria room near WS?
A. I accidentally released L button. So I losed ground surface grip.
Q. Any other sub-hardest part? It seems there are many difficult points like boost mock ball in Lower Norfair, shine spark before gravity suit, boost spacejump and mock ball at Brinsta gate, etc...
A. These are no so difficult.
(catnap222' note: He seems "Super Short Charge" master!)
Q. Please tell the TIPS of shine spark toward WS.
A. Before entering the door, you have to dash so that it add enough speed to the charged beam. Then, auto fire the charged beam in the next room. Wait until the charged beam become out of screen. And it is time to start shine spark. Charged beam is easier than super missile because charged beam has longer width and doesn't lose itself so easily.
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How can people see the small mistakes he made as proof of the video being real? As someone already said, if someone was to send a TAS to SDA, he would most probably leave in mistakes to make it beliaveable. No one would be stupid enough to just send in a run with absolutely no mistakes. Same goes for the arm pumping.
Exactly. these small mistakes don't prove the video being real.
But if I were the man who send a TAS to SDA, I would'nt have choosed the slowest Phantoon attacks(3 times!).
If so, I would have choosed rather normal pattern, and cut down some crazy & unbelievable tricks peformed in his movie to make my movie believable.
BTW, hotarubi is now answering many many questions of NINTENDON! community members (including me).
Then, some new facts appear. Here are some of them.
Whether you doubt his run real or not, you may have fun. :)
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Q. about arm pumping dash?
A. I used it carefully. At the begining of every slops, I stopped pushing L & R button.
Q. Why did you save animals? It seems unbeliable.
A. At that time, I had already recorded another 32. So I managed to challenge 31 or 32 + save animals.
Q. Why did you know this run would'nt get 31?
A. If you have many tries using same route and same strategy, you can easily estimate rough clear time.
(catnap222' note: it seems that he doesn't use real time clock. and another real player Sippu, who achieved segmented run in 35min in 2004, is comprehensible at hotarubi's word. Sippu also can estimate rough clear time. It seems that every real player can estimate rough clear time.)
Q. How about the possibility of 31? Please estimate.
A. mabye 3%.
Q. Why did you play so funny at the top room of Wreched Ship?
A. I was very paniced... I didn't think about that failure at all because I haven't ever missed that trick.
Q. What is the hardest part?
A. Double kago ball at Lower Norfair. I was luckey.
Q. What are the sub-hardest parts?
A. torizo fight(?), missile recovery at Creteria Energy Tank, shine spark toward Wrecked Ship, Botoon fight.
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These are rough translation.
If you want to read his raw comments, please go to NINTENDON! BBS (but all of comments are in Japanese :P)
Even if you prove the possibility of foul play, it doesn't prove this movie is foul play.
Also I can't prove this movie is real. But still, I believe it real.
Mabye, I'm one of the closest man to hotarubi.
We have discussed SM technique and speedrun at NINTENDON! for 1.5 years.
In those discussions, I realized that he has monster skills and unique thoughts.
He said he could perform extremely hard play which seemed impossible in real play.
People including me doubted his big mouth, and gave him many questions in detail.
But his words were filled with confidence and there were no paradox.
It seems he is not theorist, but naturally has gifts which are skill, idea, and passion.
So I recommended him to make pure speedrun.
And I told him SDA rules and all of my knowledges about SM including TAS level,
but no strategies for speedrun because it seemed to kill his unique ideas.
Since He can't speak English so well, I helped with his submittion to SDA.
That's all of my supports, and HE DID IT!
I'm proud of him. Congratulations, hotarubi!
I can answer some questions.
- hotarubi recorded this movie with HDD recorder, and burn it into DVD.
- It's temporary-blue-suit performed before Draygon fight. Easiest way to do it is to charge with pressing R and wait until charge disappear.
- My translation of author's comment is poor, but in Japanese version, he said he realized 31min impossible empirically.
Great improvement :D
I havent play this game, so I can't have comments for technical elements.
Nevertheless, Im very impressed, have much entertainment.
Character's movements are cool, but non-sense. very funny. ^^
vote yes!
OK, I have just decided to make any%run ;)
Whole route design is already completed.
Other task i have to do is micro route design and performance planning for idle time.
I will start recording in middle of Aug.
woah, i didn't even realise this was eaten by grue
Because Im going to start a new step :D
I will make Legacy movie again in this summer.
Thank you for many advice to make any%run.
I stuck to 100%run and hesitated to make any%run because I thought any%run in Legacy may be a rather nomal and bored route than 100%.
That was the only reason.
But re-considering any%route, it seems to become interesting one.
And also, it requires more strategies than 100%: which item to take and to ignore.
So now Im feeling motivate and challenging in any%.
I will make decision in early Aug. ;)
I like the part of collecting missiles with kago and kidding on SporeSpawn.
Very high quality, but rest is tooooo long to keep it. take care.
Im waiting for the complete movie, and RBO. :)
Because this movie is not worth being published. :P
I know the reasons and accept this dicision.
I will challenge this TAS again, maybe in this summer.
The only thing Im worrying about is whether TASVIDEOS.ORG accept the TAS of Metroid Legacy again or not.
Now there is an another awesome Super Metroid hack: Super Metroid Redesign.
If TASVIDEOS.ORG accept 1 hack at 1 game and choose SMR for SM hack, there is no reason to remake my Legacy movie.
I want to ask this problem to Bisqwit. :)
by simply doing a small spinjump and turn around during it in one frame
smart way :D
One thing I probably don't know exactly is Ridleys acting on different moves of Samus.
Me too, and it is defficult to control Redley perfectly.
But to say at least, it may be sure that Redleys movement is determined by his rest energy and position of samus.
I would still be very interested to see your Ridley test fight in case you want to upload it at some time.
I'm glad to contribute your run. :-)
and some small improvements on fighting Redley.
Note that charge beam is not stored in the turning motion.
So if you use charge beam, avoid turning as much as possible.
Place samus on the appropriate position, and control Redleys movement pattern.
And also, you can mix attack pattern (missile attack and chargebeam attack)
If you can't attack him with missiles because of avoiding his attack, use chargebeam.
then, you can attack with missiles again when Redley is in the attackable position.
In the tests it were about 80 energy points that lacked to survive the escape if not having a full reserve tank before.
So the only problem is how to remain reserve energy after fight finished.
Still it is difficult, but I believe you will solve this problem. keep going! :D
I noticed you have shot the first one right before touching it. Is this the reason?
yeah, that's right.
This kind of trick is well known, especially Plasma one.
Plasma penetrates enemies and damage zone of enemy disappears during that time.
But this trick is possible only by using Plasma.
My golden pirates trick is one of the exception.
It is not necessary to use Plasma. all beam is possible.
The reason why only golden pirates is mabye derived from their reflection characteristic.
However keep in mind that you have the screw attack...
Yes, I know. you have less items and are lack of effective equipment for save time.
Escaping in this situation seems to be terriblly defficult.
but there may be some solutions..... I believe. maybe.
Yes, I came up with one improvement.
How about CrystalFlashing at boss room during the time Redley haven't come yet?
Redley fight may become little bit long, but not so long compared to get more items.
I used this method in my test movie, and it saves some energy.
If you use CrystalFlash at upper gray gate(get stuck into the door when entering Redley room), you can attack smoothly after that.
And use reserve tank manually, not automatically.
If everything is well done, reserve tank may remain fully after the fight.
By the way, how much the lack of energy is for escaping?
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EDIT:
Oh, I forgot to answer the most important question. :P
why did you collect the X-Ray scope?
I managed to use it for escaping from Draygon room.
My strategy was follows.
1. Make samus caught by Draygon during CF
2. Shinespark into Draygon and gain bluesuit
3. charge and shinespark to the upper cliff
4. get out and stuck into the left blue door of next room
5. Crystal Flash and go up using X-Ray climb
At that time, I didnt have much information which was well known at worldwide website.
There aren't deep information enough to carry TASing well in Japan.
So, I didn't know the way escaping without X-Ray.
Also how many Super Missiles were you able to use on Ridley?
In NBMB, we can collect 30 super missiles and this number is the muximum for fighting Redley in RBO.
And 10 out of 30 are placed in Maridia.
So, I collected 20 super missiles before Redley.
10 out of 20 used for Crystal Flash and others for Redley.
Did you use another probably faster strategy to beat him?
no strategy. ;)
have 20 super missiles, CF during Redley comming up, that's all.
I will upload smv file I made for test play few days later. Pleas wait...
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EDIT: Oh my g... forgive my double post.
I noticed you have shot the first one right before touching it. Is this the reason?
yeah, that's right.
This kind of trick is well known, especially Plasma one.
Plasma penetrates enemies and damage zone of enemy disapears during that time.
But this trick is possible only by using Plasma.
My golden pirates trick is one of the exception.
It is not necessary to use Plasma. all beam is possible.
The reason why only golden pirates is mabye derived from their reflection characteristic.
However keep in mind that you have the screw attack...
Yes, I know. you have less items and are lack of effective equipment for save time.
Escaping in this situation seems to be terriblly defficult.
but there may be some solutions..... I believe. maybe.
Yes, I came up with one improvement.
How about CristalFlashing during the time Redley haven't come yet?
Redley fight may become little bit long, but not so long compared to get more items.
I used this method in my test movie, and it saves some energy.
If you use CristalFlash at above grey gate(get stuck into the door when entering Redley room), you can attack smoothly after that.
And use reserve tank manually, not automatically.
If everything is well done, reserve tank may remain fully after the fight.
By the way, how much the lack of energy is for escaping?
Saturn, I'm very happy to watch your progress.
I love your speed demo2.avi so much and repeat to watch it almost every day ;)
Indeed, I noticed the idea of RBO in the summer of 2005, and had tried many tests for making first RBO/suitless run, in the term from july 2005 to febuary 2006.
But once I watched your movie, I gave up to make RBO run because there is no way to beat your run.
At the same time, I was very impressed and enhanced your run, and now Im waiting for your run completed!
anyway, I have my test play movie which escape from lower norfair sucsessfully.
I collected more items than yours, but mabye there is some hint to escape.
please watch it. thank you.
http://homepage3.nifty.com/catfood/up/src/up7119.zip
EDIT: please watch it with snes9x 1.43 WIP
point is:
1. Reserve tank beeing well used
2. run through golden pirates without knockback
By the way, I want to know the music used in your speed demo2.avi
please tell me. :)
hello, Mr.Kyrsimys.
your walkthrough looks good, so I want you to continue it. :)
Limit author is Japanese, and I have once had a talk with him about this problem.
Many people couldn't make blue suit for it, and there is no basic solution.
But fortunately, it can be avoided by using other way.
That is using the saveroom near the corridor and restart game.
If you restart game, you can make blue suit normaly. I don't know the reson.
Another way is playing with ZSNES. But I think it doesn't suit your purpose.
So I suggest that you go to saveroom and suspend recording the movie and restart the game and start recording again.
by the way, why you use grappling beam to Holtz?
It seems to have an effect of paralysis, isnt it?
and does it work in the original game?
Although I also realize that this movie is hard to be accepted, Im very happy to hear your positive comments. thank you all!
From the time I made it, I have examined amount of SM information and tried much to improve my skills.
Now im more familiar to new techniques, and have some newest things never known before.
So, I can improve this movie very much.
To make it more perfect, I want your opinion about 100% routing.
What can I do about routing?
>Mr. MikeBastard
Im sorry but "published at japanese site" means merely being uploaded my emulator movie file(smv file).
So, there is no general movie file. :-(
(catnap222's comment: CRAZY... LOL)
Q. What is your next run?
A. mabye 100% single-segment in 52.
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The more I hear his comment, the more I'm supprised....
I can't wait his next movie. ;)
here is the way to get forward ;)