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Viewer wrote:
Here's a translation for the Super Famicom remake. It's pretty good.[/url]
I know,it's MMR-"Metal Max Returns".It dosen't have a official English version but someone has translated it.Oh I nearly forgot the translated version!I should have indicated this version to let more person know this great game!
I also TASed MMR,too,but I used the official Japanese version.The inside-game length is 25:20.The ending movie is very long but it doesn't need any additional inputs to get a very end like the NES version.But I have several problems with this version.
1). The common battles can't be avoided.In my movie I had to encounter 17 common battles.That's not an entertainment.
2).No bug like the NES version.At least I have not found any program errors to help in the boss fight or other places.In my movie I spent more than 4 minutes in the first boss fight just like my first submission of the NES version.I think it's terrible.
That's why I didn't submit that movie.
But there's also some good points.The underground can save a lot of time,the walking speed of the hero is faster than NES version and the graphics are pretty good.I will try to find some way to improve it,especially on the boss fight.
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I have add it into the movie,now it's 26:10, 4 minutes longer.Thanks.
How can I replace the old movie to the new one? or I just need to send the new movie to the encoder?
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What they said is like that： Father:"What? You say you will go back to became a super hero again?!Are you crazy?"
Sister:"Dad,just let him go,he has his dream."
Then the hero leave home again,and it come out some words that"the hero once again become a hunter,he will search for new challenge,for his dream".
The BIG character “完” means the end.
That's the ending.I end it as early as possible,after 4 minutes' ending movie it really needs several inputs to end it.
I haven't met this problem before.I thought in the encoding process the encoder helping to make some inputs to end it is OK.
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There are two bugs.You can compare this run with my last submission here.
http://tasvideos.org/2184S.html
I didn't use bug in that run.So the two bugs can improve the last movie by 5 minutes and 50 seconds.
One is the tank copying.When the hero first meet the company and when the two boys are talking.If the occasion is taken exactly at a right frame a same tank can be made out.This bug will save the time for the new boy to rent a new tank.It's about 10-20 seconds.
Another bug is to increase the hero's attack.The first boss fight--two big blue cannon is the most difficult fight in this game if you play it normally.Because in the latter boss fight you can use some special shells to make it easy.But in this fight you have nothing.
In the last run I spent several minutes in the first boss fight but this time I only use several seconds(except the time for level up).
The process of this bug is short:in the main list you choose the hero--select a cure capsule(I bought 4 capsules from the vending machine at the beginning of this movie)--use it not to a person but to the third tank(but we did not have a third tank at that time)--then the system will increase the hero's attack but not his HP.I think it's a program error because you use the person-cure item to a wrong place and it happendly cause some change on the hero's attack ability.
Then the hero's attack can be increased from 50 to more than 2000.Then the big cannon can be defeated in just one turn ^^
All together this bug improve the three boss fight by more than 5 minutes.
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I have played this game some years ago,I like the games made by TREASURE.I have expected someone to TAS this game and now it come out.
I think your movie is very nice.The game itself is very interesting,graphics and sounds are both nice.The technica is also good,I didn't expect the BOSS fight can be so fast,the final BOSS fight is a little long,but I know this battle is hard.
Congratulations and good luck to you ^-^
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klmz wrote:
Hmm, a short RPG again. Not so good when your perished team member wasn't revived in the end, but the STR glitch increased the awesomeness nonetheless.
It's me that let the team member die.After that battle I don't need to use the BUG,so that guy is useless.And his existing will wast time,include the time for his level up in that battle if he was alive,and the time of choosing operation for him in the next several battles. So I died him purposely.I wrote this in the last submission,and some other introdution.
http://tasvideos.org/2184S.html
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Oh in MMR ending the battle on different frames does afect affect the"N",it can be changed from 10 to 50 or more.It's amazing.But I'm not sure if I can make it to avoid enemies all the way.Sometimes I have to go more than 100 steps on the main map.That's a real headache -_-
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As to the game "MMR",I'm not sure if it belongs to the 'get battles every N steps' games.Because the 'N' is not determinate.Sometimes more than 10 steps,but sometimes just one or two steps.I wonder if this kind of getting battles can be controled.
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No,you are right. The main world map of this game is very broad.It is said that the prototype of this map is Tokyo.But I havn't been to Tokyo so I don't know if it is true.Most of the time is spent on traversing.The most difficult BOSS is the two big blue ordnances.After that I can use some special shells to defeat the BOSS easily.Strictly speaking they were not defeated,they were disordered and run away.But the result of the battle is they were defeated.Maybe it's a BUG of the game.
I have TASed this game twice.This movie is the later one.On technical quality it can hardly be better.As to the entertainment I can do nothing more.The whole story is very interesting if you can read Japanese.
By the way I have another problem.I tried the SNES version of this game named"Metal Max Raturns".But I can't make it to avoid the normal enemies all the way.It is seems that after about somesteps I have to run into a battle.But it is not absolutly like Final Fantasy 1.Is there an kind of RPG game in which the enemy encountering mode is just between DQ1 and FF1.And is there a topic about this kind of discussing.Thank you.
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OK, I have to say something about the SNES version.It has big difference from the NES one.Because there's no Chinese version of "Metal Max Returns", I'm not so familiar with this game.But as far as I know the BOSS fight will be different for the special shells doesn't take effect any more and the process will be changed because the SNES game has a underground passage.In general, a speedrun of SNES will be a completely different one.What's more the NES game is the origin of the whole series.That's a special significance.
As a TAS of a RPG game I can't expect this movie to have a big entertainment.The normal completed time is 20 hours or more but I managed to make it in 30 minutes.And the world map of this game is broad so a lot of time is spent on processing on the map.I can't make change at this point.But thers's really some interesting point in this movie,like how to get the women companion,how to destroy the Halo Building and how to deliberately force the protagonist to death to save time.
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Definitely yes!
I hope a vivid AVI movie can be given so I can enjoy this movie by details.You know,the first gunstar heroes' TAS wasn't made into AVI three years ago.
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I'd like to give a yes vote for such an interesting and well played movie.The author is a very humorous guy.But... it's a little unpolite to piss in front of a lady,although she is the wife -_-!
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Personally,I like to end the movie as early as possible,the #1 termination point.That is the spirit of speedrun--as short as possible,just like the ending point in "GBA Maxim Version Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance " in 00:26:95".(http://tasvideos.org/727M.html)
It's so cool to end it in that way,in my view;)
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I haven't used this editing tool before.I'll have a try. I think in the new movie there will be around 20 frames' improvement.I'll make the movie file update then.