Mashing B (alternating frames) in water is the fastest method right? I saw an old vid that claimed timing is more optimal, but looking in mupen/mhs it seems like mashing is the fastest.
I reckon Grunz is right. It probably has to do with Link's height on the frame he resurfaces, and if you start from the loading zone, you should always get the same height.
Edit: By the way, I discovered something small. It may be useless in the grand scheme of things, but who knows? Anyway, if you put the put the pick up item button on autofire (c-right I think?) and jump backwards on a slope, you can stop on the slope were normally you would slide down. It only works on certain parts of a slope. I've been experimenting with it near the boss door on the slope, trying to get clip past the door.
the TAS should definitely do the boss skip for FoS!
also here are some memory addresses I found in mupen rerecording
x 00C3C450 float
y 00C3C454 float
z 00C3C458 float
minutes 00C756AC byte
hours 00CV756AE byte
HP 00C756BC short
subweapon type 00C756C0 byte
subweapon ammo 00C756CA byte
power level 00C7576E byte
i also found some random enemyHP addresses but the game uses different ones a lot of the time so you should probably look into it yourself
I didn't know there were multiple versions of the game. I think I have a 1.0 cart, what changed in 1.1 and 1.2???
Also speaking of versions anybody know if these tricks work in Legacy of Darkness? Would that be the better version of the game to TAS or run? (even though it may be longer)
Also I accidently skipped the really long lizardman text by activating two textboxes at the same time I think
http://www.twitch.tv/cosmowright/b/327217016
I got the key without the long textbox.
As great as this run is, it's pretty annoying that we're making yet another SM64 category here.
We may as well just open a special section of the site completely dedicated to every type and combination of SM64 run possible.
I was curious if anyone here had an opinion as to if this was actually a TAS in disguise. (A TAS with intentionally human looking movements)
I find it hard to believe, but I was hoping that one of you who knows more about the game could comment on the feasibility of doing basement BLJ in real time. It is also one of a small number of games that synchs on the controllerbot, so a disguise TAS would be very hard to detect indeed.
fwiw even though over the course of the whole run cut scenes are like 12 minutes or whatever faster, it doesn't feel (to me) like any individual cut scene goes by noticeably quicker. (imo)
here's the current WR speedrun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5GvPPBGKFw
obviously a TAS would use TAS movement techniques. probably use tektite hovering instead of using lon lon ranch. would probably RBA cojiro and manipulate a ton of bomb drops before DC so they could hover to the head instead of going through the dungeon.
Wrong warping is banned as well? When was that decided? I thought you could WW by death from the Fire Temple to the Forest Temple using only the Ocarina Items Glitch? I don't mean to nitpick, I am honestly confused whether WW is banned for this category in general.
things like DC -> GTG and Fire -> Forest would be allowed. doing FW BA and wrong warping using that would be disallowed.
The fact no one has run it with RBA before does not mean that it is outside of the category. Sometimes new glitches are discovered, and unless the category is modified to make them illegal, they would obviously become fair game. Take a look at the history of mario 64 for good examples of this.
So if you want to define the category to exclude RBA, fine. Just do so clearly, and don't act like it is obvious that it should be excluded; as it is just an arbitrary choice.
even SDA knows its banned, and they aren't exactly up to date on OoT:
http://speeddemosarchive.com/ZeldaOcarinaOfTime.html
"Note: The tricks that qualify as large-skip glitches are: Bottle Adventure; Reverse Bottle Adventure; skipping the stones and medallions; and skipping Ganon's castle trials."
This category has had these rules for six years or so.
And who precisely is the "we" you are talking about when you said "That's just how we define it", and why is their opinion about constraints on a speed run important enough to warrant a category here?
This category has a long history dating back to 2006 when the first runs of it were created. The category was created a bit after trials skip and shadow early, which made some of the main parts of the game obsolete. It has never allowed RBA. Nobody has ever run it with RBA, nor did anybody ever plan to beyond making a route using it for shits and giggles. With the new wrong warps to the credits, it only further cements that RBA would not be allowed in this category.
RBA destroys this game so much harder than the credits warp... I see no reason that any% no credits warp should be a category; it is already horribly glitched and skips everything
Not sure how much faster Tektite is than Lon Lon if you could it make it to KV before night after second Lon Lon. That would save 90s up to KV, it would turn night in mountain trail right away, but I'm not sure if that would matter, it might just be a few seconds delay somewhere waiting for it turn back to day.
You can do an aqua slide on the first trip to lon lon from KV, not sure what else, it might be enough. Also, I'm not sure if aqua slide in child section to market would mean more day time in adult or not. It seems you don't need to break the stick anywhere to skip owls either, so I think you can still use stick for 1 aqua slide to market in child section, making swordless way much faster even more.
you need the egg to hatch so waiting for day is sort of necessary using LonLon route
