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While watching I thought I saw a potential improvement at the start of 6-2, and indeed the unassisted speedrun uses it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/243996322?t=0h17m59s
At least it's close to the end and shouldn't pose a big problem adding in :)
Great job on the run nontheless!
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sinister1 wrote:
MAJOR UPDATE: This strat obsoletes the current TAS by over 2 seconds. Probably more since you can likely find a way to trigger the zip like in the current TAS, which is much faster than this box throw setup that can be done easily in real time:
https://twitter.com/sinister1sda/status/1168773232276541440
Nice to see such crazy strats are making it's way into the spectacular world of RTA!
Regarding the TAS though, there are faster ways to make it past that (and every other) area. I made a post about it way back in this thread, with some movefiles. But I suppose not many people check those nowadays, so here a youtube link to the fastest completetion of the first level:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdsym76GKA&feature=youtu.be
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Alyosha wrote:
Koston wrote:
On the second Youtube video, at 2:13-2:25 nothing meaningful is done and should be removed. Just proceed directly right to the first barrier skip.
ahahaha shows what I know!
Thanks for pointing that out I'll fix it later today.
^ LOL
Also, the ceiling grappling at 2:40 in the second video is very different from the published run. Did you check that you didn't lose any time there?
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Stovent wrote:
Wow, very impressive ! This clearly deserve Stars for me !
Just a question : In Oil Ocean 2, why didn't you wait for all the birds to go out of the screen before walking, like you did in hte others levels ?
Zurggriff wrote:
The platforms in Wing Fortress that retract and extend into and out of play are controlled by a power-on timer and limit when Sonic can pass through without losing time. With a movie file that did not waste time at any of the capsules, Sonic was 2 frames late to getting through with an earlier platform cycle. Rather than pausing there for 245 frames to catch the next cycle, the time delay was distributed to the capsule animals in Casino Night 2 and Oil Ocean 2.
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feos wrote:
Comparison downloadable:
The delay between Marble Zone 3 and Spring Yard 1 was a bit off (put 4 instead of 14?) Thanks a lot though. Hope it can be enjoyed by anyone besides me :)
WST wrote:
Hey, Aglar, I just wanted to do something cute for you :3
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Zurggriff wrote:
When looking through the forums, it appears that there has been interest in an updated Any% TAS for a few years so here is a WIP:
WIP through HTZ2
All of the known improvements were in the first half of the run. It looks like the rest of the levels will likely be unchanged from the published run.
That's awsome how you extended the zip in HTZ1 all the way to the tunnel. Was this an extremelly tight move, or did I just suck?
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A new trick found after my submission - how unusual ^^. You can also push either of "up", "down", "B", "A" and "select" for the same effect.
Anyway I don't know if this would be allowed on TASVideos either. Second controller inputs are often viewed upon as debug codes. It exists for example in The Legend of Zelda (allowed) and Mega Man 3 (not allowed). My spontaneus thought is that it shouldn't be allowed.
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Samsara wrote:
PGCX864 says the screen-wrap saves 80 frames, but the new file is only 64 frames faster. Were those 16 frames unavoidably lost, or was it just a miscommunication in how much time is actually saved?
The second form has a 64 frame rule for when it can be defeated :/
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Will never understand how people find stuff like this :D
Anyway, here's the run with the glitch included. Please replace the existing submission file with this one: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/33056559340655847
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Well, I think it's safe to say that I'll never complete this run, so here's some resources I dug up from my PM box.
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/640070465/Chip%20%27n%20Dale%20Rescue%20Rangers%20%28U%29%202playertestrun.fm2 - almost completed test run
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/221249344/Chip%20%27n%20Dale%20Rescue%20Rangers%20%28U%29%20TASL1.fm2 - zone 0 better optimized
The most important RAM addresses:
68 - chip's x pos
470 - chip's x-sub pos
510 - chip's y pos
460 - chip's y-sub pos
69 - dale's x pos
471 - dale's x-sub pos
511 - dale's y pos
461 - dale's y-sub pos
To execute the zip glitch one player must throw the other one frame before hitting the ground, then wait for 2 frames and then jump into him. What y-pixel you need to be at when throwing the other player depends all on the characters' y-subpixel values. In order to get the zip to work while throwing from the same y-pixel as the platform you're about to land on you should aim to have the carried character's y-subpixel value to be as low as possible (when being carried) and the other one's as high as possible (at the frame before you jump into the other one). Just think about that the highest subpixel for this character is 170 since the game checks for what the next value would be which is 170 + 85 = 255, for the carried character this isn't the case though and thus the lowest subpixel value is 0 instead of 171. It doesn't need to be perfect though, I don't know where the exact line is between it working or not but the margin is at least 100 subpixels combined, meaning if you can get the subpixel value 50 with the carried and 120 with the other it should still work. If the subpixels are arranged differently you must either throw the other character from 1 or 2 pixels above the ground (depending on how the subpixels are set).
Apparently the screen scrolls slower if Dale is first of the characters while zipping.
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First of all you MUST run faster than 13 pixels/frame at a 45 degree angle (the value 32 in the lua HUD), which means at least a speed of 3329.
4663 * sin(45) = 3297 so no it will not work from here, Sanic gotta go faster.
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About the monitor thing, if you're 1 pixel in front of it on the frame before you hit it you'll catch some air and thus run again once you land. The adjustment of position needed for this is the answer to your others questions, except for the loop one which I simply didn't spend too much time on. That's the reason why I suggested you to work further on it, have fun ^^
