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GuanoBowl wrote:
& DK, there will be some seconds saved backwalkin because of the sword/deku stick/sword/deku stick trick.
Cool, so it works, hopefully. I guess it might be annoying for you to do, but hopefully you can use the plugin to help you. You can create macros, right?
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can mupen do macros?
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It's a little dissapointing that you didn't use the skulltula boost on the web (saves 3-4 seconds if done optimally), but everything else was perfect, so I can't complain.
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GuanoBowl wrote:
I took damage in the deku scrub room because I should have lost hearts, but getting the heart in the chest was a bummer. I need as little as hearts as I can to die/savewarp easily.
Use the heart for a damage boost off a leever or similar later. Unless you can't when supersliding.
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YautjaElder wrote:
It's a little dissapointing that you didn't use the skulltula boost on the web (saves 3-4 seconds if done optimally)
What is that? I don't understand JSmith: Use the heart for a damage boost off a leever or similar later. Unless you can't when supersliding. Don't you need a grab icon to appear when doing that?
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AKA wrote:
From here go to the Spirit learn the requiem; get the bombchus; warp out using the requiem and then kill yourself, I think thats Mwl had in mind.
Well, if he does Bottle Adventure, he won't be needing the Requiem. So he can just die to the Lizalfos in the bombchu room. I agree with CoolBumpty--why land on the switch (and trigger the flame-lighting cutscene) if you're not going to use the flame in the first place? Anyway, 3'36" is a good time for Deku. I'm sure 3'30" will be eventually possible with the elimination of the subscreen delay as well as the minor improvements that have been brought up.
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mwl wrote:
AKA wrote:
From here go to the Spirit learn the requiem; get the bombchus; warp out using the requiem and then kill yourself, I think thats Mwl had in mind.
Well, if he does Bottle Adventure, he won't be needing the Requiem. So he can just die to the Lizalfos in the bombchu room. I agree with CoolBumpty--why land on the switch (and trigger the flame-lighting cutscene) if you're not going to use the flame in the first place? Anyway, 3'36" is a good time for Deku. I'm sure 3'30" will be eventually possible with the elimination of the subscreen delay as well as the minor improvements that have been brought up.
Um, mwl , I'm pretty sure that if he dies in the spirit temple , then saves and continues, he will reappear back in the spirit temple.Because the games save in temples.
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So he can die again outside.. vvv He still doesn't need the requiem..
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If he goes outside , then guess whats going to happen? He has to learn the song.
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HiddenGamer wrote:
If he goes outside , then guess whats going to happen? He has to learn the song.
What happens if he reaches the guantlets chest, and wants to die there? Will the requiem cutscene still play?
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DK64_MASTER wrote:
HiddenGamer wrote:
If he goes outside , then guess whats going to happen? He has to learn the song.
What happens if he reaches the guantlets chest, and wants to die there? Will the requiem cutscene still play?
That takes a lot longer and a bombchu would need to be sacrificed.
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I do believe the question was not whether it would be feasable for the run, rather whether the cutscene would play when one takes the exit for the silver gauntlets.
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kwinse wrote:
I do believe the question was not whether it would be feasable for the run, rather whether the cutscene would play when one takes the exit for the silver gauntlets.
Eh, it doesn't matter either way, AKA is correct. It doesn't matter if it plays or not, it's probably gonna take longer. Getting Farore's wind wouldn't help either right? It would take too long? Just throwing some ideas out there.
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The point was that I want to know the answer to the original question. >_>
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Has anyone successfully attempted to run Guano's m64 file in Mupen and get through it without desyncs? I tried both the gl64 and Jabo's graphics plugin, and actually Jabo's plugin got me further without desync. Still not off of Link's balcony though. The gl64 plugin desynced during the Navi/Deku Tree text at the very beginning. EDIT: Ah sorry, figured it out. Darn raw data was checked. grr.. Nice Deku Tree Guano!
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mwl, i had to initiate the cutscene to get where the chest was to do the glitch on the skulluta.
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1 minute and 30 seconds = Learn song 48 seconds =Cut scene after silver gauntlets plus the time it takes to get there after getting bombchus 30:28 - 33:20 about 3 more mins which would be 3 mins and 48 seconds. Its better not to get the silver gauntlets and just get the bomb bag in dongo's cavern then. Unless getting the silver guantlets is faster then you would get them in the Dondgo's cavern and then getting the bomb bag upgrade in the shop. Which is probably not true, so therefore its probably faster not getting the silver gauntlets. This means he might have to die two times, once in the spirit temple then save and continue then go out of the spirit temple and then get the song then die again then save and continue. DK64MASTER SAYS "What happens if he reaches the guantlets chest, and wants to die there? Will the requiem cutscene still play?" No, I really don't think so. Chances of that are very low.
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For each wip I'll make a low bitrate video, and a high bitrate one, you can choose what you want with the _HQ and _LQ at the end of the filename. deku tree, http://tas.monotoli.org/mov/oot/wip/lozoot-guanobowl-wiptas-02_LQ.mkv 10.7MB http://tas.monotoli.org/mov/oot/wip/lozoot-guanobowl-wiptas-02_HQ.mkv 23.3MB
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would bottle glitching the switch to the boomerang room save time from picking up ruto and traveling back. If I am sure, ruto will be back in the main room where she fell from then you can do the rest from there. The only downfall is the cutscene between her bitching about you leaving her.
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GuanoBowl wrote:
would bottle glitching the switch to the boomerang room save time from picking up ruto and traveling back. If I am sure, ruto will be back in the main room where she fell from then you can do the rest from there. The only downfall is the cutscene between her bitching about you leaving her.
YEah, that may be possible, should be tested out.
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Ok, here we go... mwl and Coolbumty: If GuanoBowl didn't light the torch, then how would you suggest that he'd activate the sword glitch? Not of the chest, I'm sure... AKA: What I meant is to use Acryte's trick to get a boost of the skulltula on the web in the first room... the one that is near the top.
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Um, mwl , I'm pretty sure that if he dies in the spirit temple , then saves and continues, he will reappear back in the spirit temple.Because the games save in temples.
Damn, you're right about that. Good catch. I don't think there's any way around learning the Requiem, given our current knowledge. The Requiem cutscene takes about 1.5 minutes, which is less time compared to that needed to get the Silver Gauntlets. So in this case, learning the Requiem and deathwarping in the Desert Colossus still wins. DK64_MASTER, you'd need explosives to get FW in the first place.
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mwl wrote:
DK64_MASTER, you'd need explosives to get FW in the first place.
You can actually do it with a hammer or SG's, but that requires you to be an Adult.
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Indeed. I thought that was sufficiently obvious that I didn't need to mention it. :)
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On a completely unrelated note, for those that didn't see it yet, Scott has suggested an alternative Deku Tree route.
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