Youtube (selectively):
"We may release personally identifiable information ... if ..., or in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to comply with state and federal laws (such as U.S. Copyright Law) ..."
Since these complaints are filed as copyright violations, it's probably law to put someone's name when revoking material or something like that. Or maybe not completely required, but it keeps youtube more in the clear legally.
<Swordless> Go hug a tree, you vegetarian (I bet you really are one)
Youtube (selectively):
"We may release personally identifiable information ... if ..., or in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to comply with state and federal laws (such as U.S. Copyright Law) ..."
Since these complaints are filed as copyright violations, it's probably law to put someone's name when revoking material or something like that. Or maybe not completely required, but it keeps youtube more in the clear legally.
I'd like to point out that you guys are not the spokespersons for TASVideos. Especially not if you're just going to immaturely flame someone for his copyright infringement. Next time, you should just leave it to Bisqwit to write a proper message to the infringing party.
Um, let me point out this, some of the people that were complaining about it where the people that actually made the TASes and you have no right to tell them what to do, its there work.They have the freedom to do what they want. ANd for proof, JXQ has succeeded. Furthermore,I think everyone that makes the TAS's and the fans that enjoy them are the official spokespeople for the site. Can't expect Bisqwit to do everything, can't leave everything to Bisqwit, everyone needs to step out and give a helping hand. Not saying Bisqwit couldn't do everything lol, just saying when people help out I bet he appreciates it. Team work is important. Plus I do agree with you people shouldn't go out flamming like crazy.
JXQ wrote:
This person's entire account got suspended, which was more than I expected to happen, but I think it's fair. I've seen others post our content on youtube, but with all the same information clearly stated in the description, and authors not taking credit for the video. That I have no problem with.
Anyway, I posted this in case someone else finds videos being misrepresented and they are wondering the procedure to do something about it.
JXQ wrote:
More information:
Youtube's privacy policy writes:
"We may release personally identifiable information and/or non-personally-identifiable information if required to do so by law, or in the good-faith belief that such action is necessary to comply with state and federal laws (such as U.S. Copyright Law) or respond to a court order, subpoena, or search warrant."
Let me translate this for you. Once you give them your name, they will plaster it all over where the movies in question used to be. And if you (repeatedly) e-mail them requesting the removal of it, they will ignore you. So give them a fake name and they don't question it.
I also got a few more videos removed using this same template with no questions asked (plus fake name).
Good job JXQ, I didn't know you would take this that far but someone has to make a stand.
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HiddenGamer wrote:
Omega wrote:
I'd like to point out that you guys are not the spokespersons for TASVideos. Especially not if you're just going to immaturely flame someone for his copyright infringement. Next time, you should just leave it to Bisqwit to write a proper message to the infringing party.
Um, let me point out this, some of the people that were complaining about it where the people that actually made the TASes and you have no right to tell them what to do, its there work.They have the freedom to do what they want. ANd for proof, JXQ has succeeded. Furthermore,I think everyone that makes the TAS's and the fans that enjoy them are the official spokespeople for the site. Can't expect Bisqwit to do everything, can't leave everything to Bisqwit, everyone needs to step out and give a helping hand. Not saying Bisqwit couldn't do everything lol, just saying when people help out I bet he appreciates it. Team work is important. Plus I do agree with you people shouldn't go out flamming like crazy.
I felt that this complaining was pretty close to just flaming someone. Which isn't too unfair, given the fact he plagiarized, but I'd still personally not want my site to be associated with immature bashing in order to get things done. This is an excellent community, and I'd like it to remain as such.
But in the end, it wasn't all that bad anyway.
That video actually raises a good point. We should put subtitles on the videos, such as
*hop glitch*
*Difficult jump(185 rerecords)*
*Lots of 1-frame jumps*
*Boss HP:12(42)*
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
That video actually raises a good point. We should put subtitles on the videos, such as
...
*Boss HP:12(42)*
Except that bosses are often defeated so fast that an hp counter would be pretty much useless. That and I still don't like watermarks/subtitles/whatever beyond what we have now, even if it means they are more open to abuse than other solutions...
<Zurreco> if so called professional players cant adapt to every playing field, theyre obviously not that great
Except that bosses are often defeated so fast that an hp counter would be pretty much useless. That and I still don't like watermarks/subtitles/whatever beyond what we have now, even if it means they are more open to abuse than other solutions...
I'll second that. I want to enjoy the videos, not constantly be distracted by subtitles, watermarks, and so on. The occasional "this video is tool-assisted" message that some videos have (not the one at the beginning, but the one in the middle of the video) is annoying enough already...
The occasional "this video is tool-assisted" message that some videos have (not the one at the beginning, but the one in the middle of the video) is annoying enough already...
Was that sarcasm? I really can't tell. :) Seriously, though... I don't mind them too much, and I can see why they're being added, but they still are distracting. :P
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JSmith wrote:
We should put subtitles on the videos, such as...
I think that's a good idea. Maybe have an extra line of black at the top and/or bottom to add important notes. When I see a guy walk through a wall, I want to know what just happened ("Walk-through-wall glitch"). You could put in text into the black area so it doesn't cover the movie, but is close enough to explain confusing parts. (Use the top or the bottom depending on which is closer to the action. Or maybe just use one side, simpler)
Ideas for subtitling:
Wall-ejection
Plot-skips "entercooltrickhere (plot skip)"
Any programming error
Poor hit-detection (maybe only for cases of fatal collisions)
Left+right / Up+down used
Dies to save time, and other "mistakes"
Extreme luck manipulation (Dragon Warrior 1 comes to mind)
Some things don't need to be subtitled, like super-fast bossbashing. The viewer can see that the boss just got pwned.
I think that's a good idea. Maybe have an extra line of black at the top and/or bottom to add important notes. When I see a guy walk through a wall, I want to know what just happened ("Walk-through-wall glitch"). You could put in text into the black area so it doesn't cover the movie, but is close enough to explain confusing parts. (Use the top or the bottom depending on which is closer to the action. Or maybe just use one side, simpler)
Here's an idea: why not publish the subtitles separately, as SRT (I think that's the format, isn't it?) files? That way, everyone could decide for themselves whether to use them or not, something that otherwise would only be possible if there was more than one AVI file for each movie (eww). And it'd also mean that the subtitles could be changed/expanded separately from the main movie, without the need to reencode it in case someone finds a typo or so...
The occasional "this video is tool-assisted" message that some videos have (not the one at the beginning, but the one in the middle of the video) is annoying enough already...
It has a very legitimate purpose, though.
Unfortunately, quite many people go above the call of duty to go ahead and remove these informational bits.
(besides, if at all possible, why not watch the emulator movies? lossless quality, provided it doesn't desync)
I have been an avid TAS-video watcher for some time now, and I just noticed this topic. I have a suggestion. Would it be possible for one of the following to be done?
a) Perhaps nitsuja (or another programmer) could program the emulators so that the movie-makers could place a mostly transparent watermark on just one frame. That way, the only way to plaigerize would be to find that one frame and delete the watermark. The author (and perhaps the site administrators) would be the only one(s) who knew where the watermark was, and it would be easily provable that the video was created by and for the TASVideos community.
b) If that would be too hard, maybe it can just be required that a watermark appear for the briefest period of time an AVI can handle, which would achieve the same goal.
I don't know if any of these are feasible, but it would definately assist in proving ownership of the movies.
Proving ownership isn't really the problem. It should be clear enough when the exact same movie can be found on this site with an earlier publication date than the copy. That idea sounds like an easy enough post-processing step for a publisher to do, but I don't see how it could help anything, if it doesn't inform the viewers of where the movie is from.
pirate_sepiroth: Not that I don't like porn, but some of us are probably at work or some other place where that kind of picture showing up without warning can get you in trouble.
